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  1. 6 points
    Sometimes from the depths of anguish and despair emerges something beautiful and inspiring. Such is the case with a Christmas song that started out as a poem, written in the middle of a seemingly endless war by a man who was no stranger to either anguish or despair. I'll let the video below tell the rest of the story. It's very much worth a listen. However life may find you as we near the end of 2017, I wish you better days ahead, and a truly wonderful 2018. Merry Christmas, folks. Perry
  2. 5 points
    Thanks for the links Tim. I believe I've found my favorite way to take in these hikes. Google maps, a Trailhead map and Tony's excellent videos. Life is good!
  3. 5 points
    Not long ago, a friend of mine saw on Craiglists that a Battlefield Position Marker from Shiloh was up for sale. This struck him as odd, and sent me the listing over Facebook to see for myself. The marker itself is #402, Day 2 action, Jones Withers' Division, Chalmer's 2nd Brigade that states: C. S. ARMY OF THE MISSISSIPPI. Chalmers' (2d) Brigade, 9th MISS., 7th MISS., 5th MISS., 10th MISS., Withers' (2d) Division, Bragg's Corps. This brigade was engaged here on Monday, April 7, 1862, until about 1 p.m. My friend then contacted Shiloh National Military Park and informed them of what he had seen, and for the park to hopefully have it returned. I am very pleased to announce, it is indeed done. The Park Service responded saying the Marker was back in their possession, and that it had been taken from the Battlefield over 40 years ago. It looks a bit worn due to age, so I'm sure that it'll be spruced up a bit and retake it's rightful place on the Battlefield. So good news all around! -Paul
  4. 5 points
    For your viewing pleasure... If you see a typo or other mistake just put the problem here and I'll fix it! Bruce 155th Battle Anniversary Hikes and Tours.pdf
  5. 5 points
    I recall 10 years ago this April you gave some cards out and a local friend of mine came over to my truck one afternoon and handed me one of the SDG cards..I looked at it and he said "I told him you didnt have a computer" and you said to him..".maybe this will get her to get a computer." well I had to go to the library for several years. and am pleased to say that through this group I have learned so much,been able to "travel" with those who post pictures of other battlefields and meet some dear friends through this group.May we always stick together in our battlefield tromps.I also believe that most of us as youngsters were exposed to visiting historic grounds through a parent..I visited Shiloh,Stones Rvr,Chat/Chick/coast of N.C. where monitor/merrimac fought,several sites in NC,and though not CW Whites Sands Range,Lincoln Co NM.And any little stop in between ..this was prior to interstate travel so there were alot of sites to see along the way.Im looking forward to another 10 years! Mona
  6. 5 points
    Perry, I forget to mention in the above post that "THE WEST IS THE BEST" in reference to the better area of the civil war. Ron
  7. 5 points
    Perry, Congratulation's and a job well done to you. The discussion group went along through 10 years with your good leadership. I read your message about the origin of the group and was surprised because I thought it was started earlier then 2007. My big enjoyment has been reading all of the fine articles (posts) by the many knowledge members. I still regret the passing of Art Bergeron. My biggest regret is not getting to any anniversary trip to Shiloh and meeting the other members. My wife and I made two trips, (2000, 2005) just before the group started up. Too soon. I enjoyed both trips a lot specially the second trip. During this trip, I got out of the car and walked into the woods to read some tablets that were not visible from the road. It was this walking that increased my interest and enjoyment of Shiloh. I was encouraged to go home and start writing my book about Shiloh.. I'm still working on it. Congratulations to Perry and every member who has enjoyed all of the fine posts. Remember, work back to the earlier posts because they are very interesting. Ron (I do miss not meeting any of you in person).
  8. 5 points
    I am the new Archivist at Upper Iowa University, and if there is anything that I can help with regarding any of the University Recruits or Dr. Parker - please let me know. I am fairly new to this position and am fascinated by the history of the University and the involvement with the Civil War. I will also see about fixing the sign quoting the Collegian, which was the student newspaper. Below is some information about the flag. Upper Iowa University Civil War Flag In 1861, 19 young recruits from Upper Iowa University were among the men mustered into Company C of the 12th Iowa Regiment. Female students at UIU hand-sewed a flag and dedicated it to the troops in a special ceremony. The flag displayed in the UIU Library was the second flag sewn by the UIU students, as the first was lost at the Battle of Shiloh. The flag was cleaned by conservators at the State Historical Society of Iowa who volunteered their time (approximately 200-250 hours) "in honor of those who served under the folds of this great flag." The flag was encased and displayed backwards to show the better side, as the opposite side shows obvious deterioration. Description from conservator: "The artifact is a representation of a National (non-issued) flag of the United States bearing Thirty-four stars. It is hand sewn and not mass produced. Stitch count varies from 9 to 10 stitches per inch (both seams and stars) and there is visual evidence of several different hands taking part in the work as evidenced by the relative fineness of the stitcher. The material is cloth of both cotton and wool and is constructed of single layers for the canton and stripes. The stars present in the canton are appliqued to both sides of the fabric of the canton. The Field itself consists of thirteen alternating red and white wool stripes (7 red and 6 white) consistent with extant Federal laws of the period of the American Civil War (1861-1865). The stripes are connected to one another by 1/8" side overlapping seams. Top and Bottom edges of the field are hemmed. The fly end hem is rolled over a cotton cording which is secured in place by a single row of hand stitches. Though the fly end has a fair amount of "shatter" some of the cording is yet visible in place. The dark blue canton is inset into the upper hoist corner and secured to the field with the same, previously noted 18th-inch hand seaming. The canton rests on the 8th stripe, and there are seven alternating red and white stripes adjacent. There are thirty-four each, five-pointed stars within the orders of the canton, and these are appliqued to both sides thereof. A partial, non-original, staff and associated cords and tassel pendants are present."
  9. 5 points
    Greetings, In anticipation of the upcoming battleground day at Fort Donelson on November 5th I thought I would post some photographs I have accumulated over the years with the intention that they might assist those who have not been to Fort Donelson and Fort Henry and Fort Heiman before. There are two threads moving forward on the Fort Donelson hike. This one referred to a Fort Henry hike so I decided to post information on Fort Henry and other locations here. At Fort Henry earthworks remain for both the inner works and the outer works. In the last ten years information signs have been placed in some locations. You can get near Panther Bay where the Union camps were located. When you drive to the Ft. Henry location you pass through remains of the inner works of the fort as shown in the following three photographs. The first one is from 2004 and the other two from 2007. 1. The gentleman standing in the trench with the gray-green coat is Kendall Gott, author of Where the South Lost the War (Kendall said that the title was chosen by the publisher, not him). To his right wearing a greenish cap and sweater is the indomitable Ed Bearss. 2. Not a great shot but you can see earthworks in the background. 3. This is probably a closer view of the earthworks shown in photo 2. In the last seven years, or so, access and signing on the outer works permits easy access. The following photographs show Confederate outer works. 4, 5, 6, 7 8. The outer works end at the lake and there is a sign. 9. There is a pole in the water and that is probably close to the site of Fort Henry. The site of Fort Heiman is now part of the Fort Donelson National Battlefield and there is easy access to it. The following photographs show the entrance sign, surviving earthworks and a view of the lake indicating how high up the fort is from the river. There was no danger of this fort flooding but it was not finished. The state line between Tennessee and Kentucky is in the center of the lake at this location and Fort Heiman sits in Kentucky and this could be one of the reasons Fort Henry was located in the flood plain and not on the western bluffs. 10, 11, 12, 13 Following are three photos I took at the 150th anniversary. The Rebels had marched all the way from Fort Henry and entered Fort Donelson. 14, 15, 16 It was a great day as they entered the park. Quite different than the conditions in 1862. The next photo from 2010 is included because there are three guys in it with whom I have spent considerable time studying civil war battles. We were out reconnoitering between Fort Henry and Fort Donelson on a wet day and got a lesson as to the slippery Tennessee mud. The maintenance crew from Fort Donelson came out and unstuck us. On the left is Kendall Gott. Then Parker Hill who has an organization called Battle Focus and Parker was instrumental in developing the Raymond battlefield site in Mississippi. The third fellow is Len Reidel, executive director to the Blue and Gray Education Society. 17. The next photo is simply a look pass the lower battery at the Cumberland River at Fort Donelson from 2010. 18. Another photo from 2004 showing Kendall Gott and Ed Bearss. I am one of 20 people who listened to Ed Bearss give a description of the battle of Thermopylae, on site, in Greece, in 2010. Flying back from Athens, Ed and I were on the same plane but not sitting together. However, I noticed Ed spent most of the flight reading as he is constantly increasing his knowledge so he can give his enthusiastic presentations. 19. The next two photos are from 2006 on a trip in February. We were greeted with similar conditions, but not nearly as bad, as those the Union and Rebel forces faced in 1862. Kendall Gott is in the first photograph lecturing some of us while the others stayed in the van. It was cold. 20, 21. On February 15, 1862 the Confederates launched their break-out attack at dawn and the objective was to open the Forge Road for escape. The following four photographs were taken when we walked the old Forge Road down to Lick Creek. (Yes, Fort Donelson has a Lick Creek too) To the left as we walked down the road is Dudley’s Hill which is where McArthur took his second position after being flanked out of his first position. McArthur’s retreat from his second position was from the left of these photographs and then up a high steep hill to the right. 22, 23, 24, 25. The next two photographs show earthworks protecting a Union battery. I believe this earthwork protected a couple of guns of the 1st Missouri Battery K under Capt. George H. Stone that took position near the left flank of the Union line behind C. F. Smith’s division. They are on private property 26, 27. In 2004 I was on a trip where the Park provided us access to the basement of the Dover Hotel and here is what it looked like. 28, 29, 30, 31. At the 150th Anniversary Julia and Ulysses Grant paid the Park a visit. 32. Grant displaced the Widow Crisp from her farm cabin and slept in her featherbed during the battle for Fort Donelson. The Widow Crisp was just 24 years old and local history lore has it she claimed to be a widow because her husband was off fighting in the Rebel army. She stayed in the area and remarried at some point. She is buried in the cemetery of the Trinity United Methodist Church which is located along The Trace Road or Highway 49 north of highway 79. The following two photographs from 2011 were taken in the cemetery. 33, 34. In 2011 the Stewart County Chamber of Commerce building just west of the entrance to Fort Donelson had a display of quilts made by the widow Crisp. The display might still be there. The third quilt shown was used by General Grant to ward off the chills during those cold winter nights of February 1862. 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40. You really did not believe the above quilt was used by Grant during the battle, did you? Perhaps it was. These quilts are claimed to be from the civil war era. That ends the photographs so now it is time for a little more of my favorite pastime; revising the history of Fort Donelson. This revision concerns the route taken by the retreating Rebels from Fort Henry to Fort Donelson. The maps show two roads from Fort Henry to Fort Donelson. The northern road was labeled the Telegraph Road because the telegraph line between Fort Henry and Fort Donelson followed that road. The southern road is labeled the Ridge Road because it ran along a ridge. A quick way to identify a McClernand hater is when that person blames McClernand for the escape of the rebel garrison. There were heavy rains on the night of February 5, 1862 and the creeks were flooded and McClernand’s division with his artillery bogged down and could not even get to the Telegraph Road before Foote claimed the prize. The general conception is that the Rebels retreated via the Ridge Road. I always thought that until the week of the 150th anniversary when I was going to try to see how much of the Confederate retreat I could find. While researching the Rebel reports of regiments that made the retreat from Fort Henry in the Official Records I ran across a single sentence from Milton A. Haynes, Chief of Tennessee Corps of Artillery (page 147 of Series 1, volume 7) that stated the following: “At 2 a. m. our forces reached Fort Donelson, with the loss of only a few men, having marched 22 miles, and forded Standing Rock Creek at five deep and rapid fords.” It was hard to imagine fording a creek so many times when traveling on a ridge road and Standing Rock Creek is a couple miles south of the Ridge Road. Jim Jobe was the park superintendent for Fort Donelson during the anniversary festivities so I asked him about the actual route taken by the retreating Rebels. Turned out Jim had recently written about “The Battles for Forts Henry and Donelson” in Volume XXVIII, #4 of Blue and Gray Magazine. (I thought I had a copy but could not find it. Of course this issue is not available on the website as a back issue order). For his article Jim retraced the Rebel retreat route and believed he had located the five ford sites. I did it also and came up with five crossings of Standing Rock Creek. Jim’s family was living in the area of Standing Rock Creek during the civil war and he said it is possible that his great-great grandmother might have watched the Rebels retreat pass her house. (I might not remember exactly what Jim said but it was along these lines) The importance of knowing the exact route the Rebels took is that it shows just how impossible it would have been to cut them off from retreat because they retreated on a route that was further south than the Ridge Road. Where the ridge road crosses highway 79 is easily discerned because you can follow the route via signs south of highway 79. North of highway 79 you are in the Land Between The Lakes National Recreation Area. Looking at the map Transylvania sourced showing the Forts Henry Trails System I would guess that where the trail crosses highway 79 is near the number 15 marker on the map. As noted on the map the Artillery Trail probably follows the old Ridge Road used by the Union forces to approach Fort Donelson. For those planning a hike in the Fort Henry area on Sunday I thought this additional information would be helpful. Hank
  10. 5 points
  11. 4 points
    Hello everyone. This is to let you know that we're ready to go with our next Epic Trek, with historian Tim Smith. This will be our seventh consecutive year with Tim, and it promises to be another great experience. Here are the details: Price: $30 per person. Payable on the morning of the hike. Date: November 3rd, 2018. Location: Shiloh National Military Park Start Time/Place: 8:00 a.m. at Ed Shaw's, just south of the park. (Not completely set in stone just yet on Shaw's, but Mona or I will keep you posted.) If you're not sure how to get there, don't worry, we've got you covered. Focus of this year's hike: We're going to be following in the footsteps of the Confederate army's Alabama troops, and learning about their experience at Shiloh. (See professionally drawn map, below.) Overview: We'll be heading out from or near Ed Shaw's, and head off toward Spain Field with the Alabama troops of Gladden's Brigade. From there we'll reinforce John K. Jackson's Bama boys as they navigate their way through the ravines east of the Peach Orchard and help encircle the Union soldiers trapped in the Hornet's Nest. Then we'll re-up with some of Gladden's men and plunge into the Canyon of Pittsburg Landing, better known as Dill Branch Ravine. Then on to lunch near the visitors center. After lunch it's off to the west side of the park, across Canyon Jr. (Tilghman Branch), to the site of Ketchum's Alabama Battery. Then we'll begin working our way back to the south along the April 7th battle lines, and our starting point at Shaw's. Total distance for this hike looks to be roughly nine miles, with terrain ranging from easy to most definitely not easy. We should finish up between 4:00 and 6:00, based on previous hikes. As always, sturdy hiking footwear is strongly recommended. Here's that (not quite) professionally done map, outlining our basic route through the park: Check back here for updates, and feel free to ask questions either here, via Private message, or by email @pcuskey@gmail.com. Hope to see everyone in November. Perry
  12. 4 points
    The day after the Fort Donelson hike with historian Tim Smith, a few of us ventured out to the site of Fort Henry along the Tennessee River (now Kentucky Lake). This was my first time visiting the area, and I certainly hope it won't be my last. If you've heard folks talk about how beautiful is the Land Between the Lakes, there's a very good reason. And the history speaks for itself. Part of that history is the incredibly unfortunate location of Fort Henry. There are reasons that explain why the fort was situated where it was, but none of them change the fact that it was a lousy spot for a fort. The number one problem - and number two, three, four, and counting problems - was very simply that the ground near the river chosen for the fort was far too low, and prone to flooding. "Fort," "river," and "flooding" should never go together in the same sentence, especially if you're basically depending on that fort to protect the entire length of the river behind it. But that was the situation at Fort Henry. Perhaps it's fitting then, if somewhat sad, that when the Tennessee Valley Authority dammed up the Tennessee River in the 1920's and 30's to create Kentucky Lake, what remained of Fort Henry was forever submerged beneath the waves. The only thing left above water are some of the outer trench works. Here's an image from Google Maps, showing the approximate modern-day location of Fort Henry (on the right) and also Fort Heiman (on the left, on the Kentucky side of the river). It probably goes without saying that the Epic Crayon Drawings are not exactly to scale... And here is an absolutely beautiful painting titled "Battle of Fort Henry," by a talented artist named Andy Thomas. I'll provide a link to his website at the end of this article, as he deserves the credit for one thing, and he has a number of other paintings that you will most assuredly want to see for another. But this is probably what the fort looked like at the time of the Union gunboat attack. You can see what everyone means when they describe this fort as being flood-prone... In fact, when the fort finally surrendered, the Union officers accepting the surrender actually entered the fort in a boat, rather than on foot. Two days later, the entire thing was underwater. I still can't decide if that's funny, or sad. Even though the modern-day Tennessee shoreline isn't the same as in 1862, you can still get a sense of how problematic the location was for the defenders when you visit there today. Here's a picture I took during our November visit. My best-guess is that this is looking right into the heart of where the fort would have been. Note how flat the shoreline is, and compare it to the Andy Thomas painting above... Here's another view, with more Epic Crayon Drawings. The yellow line is supposed to represent the fort (not to scale - as if you couldn't tell ) and the red circle shows the location of a navigation buoy in the river, marking the approximate northwest corner of Fort Henry. So you can use that to gauge where the fort was, and roughly how large it was... Here's a view of the much better situated Fort Heiman, across the Tennessee River from Fort Henry. I've labeled the fort's location. Even though it's a fair-distance away, compare the shoreline with that around Fort Henry. Simply put, there is no comparison. Jumping across the river, here's another incredible Andy Thomas painting titled "The View from Fort Heiman," looking back at Fort Henry from Fort Heiman during the gunboat attack... And finally, here's a very rough approximation of that same view today... Note that you can only get this particular view after descending a pretty steep embankment, so be very careful if you decide to try it. I'd rough-guess it to be about a 45-degree angle about halfway down, and then a sheer drop the rest of the way, just below where I took the picture from. I'm stubborn, which is why I tried it, but just be aware that I'm most assuredly not recommending anyone else do the same thing. If you do, proceed at your own stubborn risk. All in all it was a great visit, and very instructive. It isn't really any different from what we've read, but as is usually the case, seeing the ground in person gives you a greater appreciation for what the folks had to deal with at the time, all those years ago. Here's a link to Andy Thomas' main website. I promise you won't be sorry you checked out his paintings: http://www.andythomas.com/ You can view his Civil War paintings here: http://www.andythomas.com/civilwarprints.aspx And his Fort Donelson, Fort Henry, and Fort Heiman paintings can be found here: http://www.andythomas.com/fortdonelson.aspx Perry
  13. 4 points
    Captain Henry Binmore It is said that a good leader surrounds himself with good people. And, as has been discussed, Benjamin Prentiss had a number of good people in his employ, following on his election as Brigadier General (by the troops he was to command), on May 8th 1861, in charge of the Illinois Brigade, with HQ at Cairo. And those individuals selected by Prentiss contributed to the success of their General; and in return saw their own careers go from strength to strength. One such individual, not yet discussed, is Henry Binmore. A native of London born in 1833, Henry migrated to Montreal Canada at age 16 and became a journalist, self-taught in the skill of shorthand notation. After moving to the United States, the young man worked as reporter for newspapers in Illinois and Missouri, and got caught up in the phenomena that was Stephen A. Douglas: a rising star on the National stage, whose debates in 1858 with chief contender for a Senate seat from Illinois -- Abraham Lincoln -- also propelled that man into the National spotlight. Reporter Binmore published articles from those debates, all conducted in Illinois, in the Chicago Times and the Missouri Daily Republican... and probably led to Binmore gaining the notice of Senator Douglas (who won the election). Henry Binmore was employed as Secretary to Stephen A. Douglas, and remained with that man until his untimely death in June 1861. Private Secretary Binmore was suddenly in need of employment; and Brigadier General Prentiss was in need of a competent record-keeper/administrator. Given the rank of Captain, Henry Binmore became Prentiss's Assistant Adjutant General, and followed General Prentiss from Illinois to Northern Missouri. And when Benjamin Prentiss was assigned to duty with Grant's Army in Tennessee in March 1862, prospective assignment as Commander of the new Sixth Division, it may have been Captain Binmore who went ahead and reported at Savannah (while General Prentiss was busy with tasks assigned by Henry Halleck, and completed at Cairo, Mound City and Fort Henry.) It may very well have been Henry Binmore to whom Colonel Madison Miller reported on or about March 31st 1862, and received camp assignment for the 18th Missouri Infantry. (Next day, Miller records meeting General Prentiss, in person, and being assigned as Commander of 2nd Brigade, of the Sixth Division.) As AAG for the Sixth Division, Captain Binmore applied skills learned and practiced in Missouri to write and disseminate orders, and keep the books for General Prentiss. It is unknown how successful was Captain Binmore on April 6th, suffering the same surprise as the rest of the Sixth Division; and forced to flee north before 9 a.m., where it appears he remained close to General Prentiss in the Hornet's Nest (likely keeping an account of the Day's happenings -- and probably employed to deliver orders to units, close by, especially while Prentiss' designated courier -- Edwin Moore -- was away delivering one of the many messages to General Grant.) Before 4:30 p.m., about the same time Benjamin Prentiss ordered north the artillery batteries belonging to Hickenlooper and Munch (Pfaender), the General also ordered Captain Binmore to the Landing... and so, General Prentiss was without Staff when he was taken prisoner before 5:30 (Surgeon Everett having been killed earlier in the day.) A Staff officer without a General to serve, Henry Binmore applied to Stephen Hurlbut, and found employment as volunteer Aide de camp. In December 1862, when Major General Hurlbut was put in Command of the new 16th Army Corps, with HQ at Memphis, Binmore was promoted to Major, and then Lieutenant Colonel, and became Hurlbut's AAG. At the conclusion of the War, Henry Binmore returned to Chicago and found employment as a Law Reporter (while studying law.) Passing the Illinois Bar before 1890, he continued to work in the legal profession, and the writing of law-related documents and papers, until his death in 1907. Just a bit more to the story of the Sixth Division... Ozzy References: http://archive.org/stream/lincolndouglas2184linc#page/n121/mode/2up/search/photograph Henry Binmore bio pages 80 - 81. OR 8, OR 10, OR 24 (various pages) Shiloh Report of General B. M. Prentiss http://archive.org/stream/cu31924022842433#page/n0/mode/2up/search/Binmore Henry Binmore's legal papers A Politician Turned General: the Civil War Career of Stephen A. Hurlbut by Jeffrey Norman Lash (2003) Kent State Press, page 110. http://newspapers.library.in.gov/cgi-bin/indiana?a=d&d=PT19071107.1.8 Plymouth Tribune 7 NOV 1907 page 8 col.4 "Reporter dies" SDG post March 2018 "The 18th Missouri Infantry" [Colonel Madison Miller] [Sketch by Robert Marshall Root] Lincoln - Douglas Debate of 18 SEP 1858 at Charleston Illinois before a crowd of 15000 people. Prominent on the Speaker's Platform are Abraham Lincoln, Stephen A. Douglas, and scribbling away below Lincoln's left arm, Henry Binmore. [From Scenic and Historic Illinois (1928) by Charles E. Brown.]
  14. 4 points
    All, Well, as many of you know, I have worked a long time to develop the best image collection related to the Battle of Shiloh, and also, Corinth, Fort Donelson, and Iuka. Never have thought to ask before, but if anyone has any images, or knows of any images, related to these battles, especially Shiloh. Let me know, I would love to add them to the appropriate album. I would speculate that the Shiloh Confederate and Federal albums is the largest online collection of images related to the Battle of Shiloh available, well, anywhere. Hope everyone enjoys them! Stan
  15. 4 points
    Jim - here are a few screenshots from my gps app showing where we hiked, with some added tags (I hope I got them right - if not someone will let us know). I included the elevations around Tilghman Branch since Tim asked about it.
  16. 4 points
    I have my reservation in Savannah and plan to be there as scheduled. Since the research I have done over the years involves Prentiss, Peabody, Powell, the opening of the fight and the Sunken Road and Hornets’ Nest I invite anybody from this group and any others who have an interest to meet me at 9 AM on Sunday, Nov. 12, at the Prentiss headquarters monument where I will share information on Prentiss. Then I plan to visit Peabody’s monument to have a discussion of what happened in the opening of the fight. After that we will make a trip to the Hornets’ Nest to discuss the action there and along the Sunken Road. Other details like the amount of walking and time frame will be worked out once we get started. I have no fixed time for ending but figure on continuing as long as there is an interest to do so. I was going to offer to do this after the morning Trabue hike but since those plans have changed I adjusted to start Sunday morning. Hank
  17. 4 points
    A little fun from some of our Epic Treks.... (Photo credit: Michele) (Photo credit: Ed Wertz) (Photo credit: Mike Talplacido) (Photo credit: Michele) (Photo credit: Michele) (Photo credit: No one claims this one) (Photo credit: Mike Talplacido) (Photo credit: Michele) We'll be doing another Epic Trek this November. Why not join us? You'll have a great time, and who knows, you might wind up as a caption. Perry
  18. 4 points
    Hi Folks, After heading up to Fort Donelson this past fall, we're returning to Shiloh for our next Epic Trek adventure with historian Tim Smith. This time we're going to focus on Lew Wallace and his controversial role in the battle. Tim is going to lead us on a combined driving/walking tour of Wallace's infamous march from Crump's Landing to the battlefield on April 6th, and explore the controversies surrounding this march. After lunch, we'll then re-trace Wallace's fighting advance on April 7th as part of the Union counter-attack. In 2005, Tim led a small group of rangers and historians on what was likely the first complete re-tracing of Wallace's march since the battle, so he knows the ground and the subject well. The hike will take place on Saturday, November 11th, 2017 - Veterans Day. We'll have more information later, but I wanted to get this out there so everyone can start planning to join us. It should be another great hiking adventure, so mark it on your calendars and make plans to be there! Perry
  19. 4 points
    A few more. Pictures courtesy of Ed Wertz, and used with his permission. He also gets caption credit for the first one.
  20. 4 points
    Hi there guys. I received an email from the great-granddaughter of Augustus Hervey Mecklin after she came across this discussion and saw the question about her ancestor's diary. According to what she told me the diary is in the Mississippi Department of Archives & History. Here's their main website: http://www.mdah.ms.gov/new/ She added that you can't handle the original anymore (she was able to do so at one point), but you can order copies of the original diary, as well as a copy of a typed transcription made by one of his granddaughters. She did say that the transcription contains at least one error. I did a search using his name but did not get any results, which I'm sure simply means that the diary is not yet available online. But likely you can arrange to get a physical copy by contacting them, as she outlined. I'm not sure if his great-granddaughter wants her name posted on a public board so I won't do so, but her helpful information is very much appreciated. Perry
  21. 4 points
    Here's my own little Then & Now submission. The one on the left was taken in 2014, the one on the right in 2017. Note the angle of the sun, the position of the sunglasses, and the placement of the arms.
  22. 4 points
    Welcome to the board, Jonny. Concerning your ancestor's unit, that would probably have to be the 4th Alabama Infantry Battalion, if he was at Shiloh. They were part of Trabue's brigade in Breckinridge's Reserve Corps and fought mostly on the western part of the battlefield. The battalion was detached from the rest of the brigade early on the 6th, according to Trabue's report. (Apparently there was also a report from the battalion commander, but it was unfortunately lost at some point.) The brigade helped to stop a strong Union counter-attack around mid-day on April 6th, and later helped surround and capture the Hornet's Nest defenders. Your ancestor's battalion saw some heavy fighting for a time on the 7th, so it's possible he was wounded on either day. Just doing a quick check, it appears the 4th Battalion was also known as the 10th Alabama Infantry Battalion, and in fact, this may have been its official designation. But, it also was apparently merged with other units at some point after Shiloh, and/or had its designation changed to the 16th Alabama Infantry Battalion. Then later it seems it was merged yet again, into the 55th Alabama Infantry. So yes, probably kind of a headache trying to sort through the records, depending on what unit the information is filed under. Here's a link to Colonel Trabue's report from Shiloh, if you'd like to read through it. He mentions the 4th Alabama Battalion a few times, especially concerning their action on April 7th. Scroll down to the bottom of the first page (613) to see the start of Trabue's report. It runs through page 621, and you can read his account of the April 7th fighting on pages 617-618... http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=moawar;cc=moawar;idno=waro0010;q1=620;view=image;seq=631;size=100;page=root On a side note - the park is commemorating the battle anniversary next week, and on Saturday night (the 8th), will illuminate the park with almost 24,000 candles, one for each casualty from the battle. Since your great-grandfather was a casualty, one of those candles will be for him. Perry
  23. 4 points
    Hooray! The Park has the coat due to donations and grants from The State of Tennessee, But don't stop now as we still need to get the coat conserved at a cost of $20,000.00. We have it and it will be at Shiloh forever, way to go Friends of Shiloh.
  24. 4 points
    Sometime on February 28th, 2007, I clicked whatever button it was that I was supposed to click, and the Shiloh Discussion Group was live and in color for the first time. Two years earlier I was (unknowingly) coming to the end of my time as the editor of the Civil War topic on the now-defunct Suite101.com, and kicking around the idea of starting up a site centered around a single battle. Maybe the timing was good, as I was about ready to move on as it was. I quickly narrowed the choices down to a couple of personal favorites, Vicksburg and Shiloh. Obviously I went with Shiloh, but the choice wasn't an easy one. Shiloh is a very special place for me, but so is Vicksburg. And both are incredibly important and compelling parts of the war, rich in history and remarkable stories. I darn near ended up flipping a coin. The membership on the first day consisted of exactly one person - me. Hey, you have to start somewhere, right? But it wasn't long before that number exploded all the way up to 3, with the addition of Eileen Murphy and the late historian Art Bergeron. I'd met both of them years earlier on Prodigy, one of the original online services with a wonderful Civil War community. We'd stayed in touch over the years, and they both knew about and supported my strange new venture into the world of online discussion boards. The next two members were Dan and Ron, both of whom, along with Eileen and Art, have made invaluable contributions to the board over the years. And both of whom, along with Eileen, are still members, which speaks to their dedication, and their remarkable patience with the board administrator. Art sadly passed away a few years ago, but he is still listed as a member here, and always will be as long as this board is around. Art was a good person. We've picked up a few more members since those early days of the board, of course. As for the board's name, it's a shamelessly blatant ripoff of The Gettysburg Discussion Group, founded by the Brothers Lawrence, Dennis & Bob, after a small gathering at Gettysburg in 1994. If theirs isn't the oldest web site centered around a single Civil War battle, it has to be close. Bob and Dennis were also on Prodigy. As I said, it was a wonderful community we had there, with some very dedicated folks. (You can visit the GDG here - http://www.gdg.org/ ) One of the founding members of the GDG also became the second member here on the SDG - Eileen Murphy. So there's a literal and figurative connection between the two sites. I honestly didn't know what to expect when I started up this board. I'd love to say that I had a plan in place or some such, but truthfully, the "plan" went about like this - "let's start up a board on Shiloh and see where it goes." Well, where it's gone since then is pretty remarkable to me, because of the people who have joined it over the last ten years, and who have made it into what it is now. We started out as small little corner of the web on a free site with crazy flashing ads, and now we're over 300 members on a much larger site, including park rangers and historians, and have annual gatherings at the park in the fall. I've met and made new friends along the way, and I know the same is true for others here. That's pretty cool to me. Sometimes I kind of step back and think about all that. There's been more than once, on a visit to the park during the anniversary or on one of Tim's Epic Treks, when I mentally take note of what starting this site has meant for me, and how its grown, and had an impact on the lives of others. It's hard to describe, to be honest. It's almost as if the board has taken on a life of its own, and has grown beyond what I ever could have done for it by myself. Experiences, friendships, things that are sometimes difficult to put into words, but are still very real. ( (I wrote about my own personal Shiloh story here - http://shilohdiscussiongroup.com/index.php?/blogs/entry/3967-my-shiloh-journey/) If someone had asked me on that first day if I thought the board would still be around in ten years, I think I probably would have said that I wasn't sure, but it would be pretty neat if it were. I'd have to give the same answer today to that same question, if someone were to ask it now. I don't know if the board will still be here or not in ten years, but either way, it's already become a wonderful community of people who have helped contribute to our knowledge and understanding of a key part of American history. I honestly don't know how you put a value on that. As for what comes next, I guess that's to be determined. I've long wanted to create a full-scale web site to go along with the board. That's still my hope, and part of the plan. So stay tuned. We also have a nice little community on Facebook, if you've not yet checked it out. You can do so here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/367358856351/ For now though, I just want to say a sincere thank you for making this board what it is, at the ten-year mark. It's been a great run thanks to you. And here's to an even greater next ten years and beyond, for this board, yes, but more so for each one of you as well. Perry
  25. 4 points
    Historian Tim Smith will be interviewed online this Saturday by none other than our very own Bjorn Skaptason, about Tim's new book on forts Henry & Donelson. Bjorn will also be interviewing David Powell about his new book on Chickamauga. You can find out about the broadcast, as well as watch it live, at the link below. If you can't make the live broadcast, I'll post a link to the replay on Youtube as soon as it's up... http://authorsvoice.net/
  26. 4 points
    Free food on Bruce! Also, concerning the Ed Bearss maps that Hank mentioned, they're available as downloadable pdf files on the Fort Donelson NPS site - https://www.nps.gov/fodo/planyourvisit/thebattleforfortdonelson.htm Scroll about halfway down the page and you'll see the links. Perry
  27. 4 points
    Greetings, Recently I visited a grade school and high school buddy (Dave) who lives in Fort Atkinson, Iowa. Nearby is Waukon, Iowa, the home and burial place of David Wilson Reed. Also of interest was Clermont, Iowa where a sculpture of David Bremer Henderson, the first Speaker of the House from west of the Mississippi, and who drafted the legislation for the formation of Shiloh National Military Park, was dedicated in front of the Episcopal Church. Reed and Henderson were of the group known as the “University Recruits” from Upper Iowa University (UIU) who joined Company C of the 12th Iowa. Henderson was instrumental in David Reed becoming the historian for Shiloh. UIU is still in existence and is located in Fayette, Iowa, another close-by town. Dave and I spent two days searching cemeteries and visiting UIU and locating several graves of soldiers who were members of Company C, 12th Iowa. I recognized most of the names from the research I have done on the 12th Iowa. I prepared this summary of the results of our little excursion with the hope that you enjoy the photographs as much as we enjoyed visiting the sites. We started in Waukon, Iowa at the Oakland Cemetery and commenced our search. A helpful grass cutter was more than willing to take a break and help us locate David Reed. The big marker is for the family plot and Reed’s parents are there along with his wife and others of his family. There is a young daughter of Reed’s and maybe another child. The actual markers for Reed and others are very difficult to read. The obelisk that notes Reed’s parents also notes his brother Milton who died of disease in 1863 and is buried in the National Cemetery at Corinth, Mississippi. The Reed family plot. The blue flag is Reed’s marker and we realized we could look for this type of blue marker to help us locate other graves of men from Company C of the 12th Iowa. We found no more at this cemetery but would discover others elsewhere. 1. Reed family plot 2. Reed family monument. This monument is pictured on findagrave. 3. Reed marker. Almost unreadable. Reed died in 1916. 4. Reed’s wife Ellen. She died in 1926. 5. Reed children. The stone on the right is readable as a daughter of Reed’s who died in 1872. The stone on the left stumped me as it is difficult to read. 6. Hannah Reed. This side of the obelisk commemorates Reed’s mother. She died in 1877 at age 61. 7. John Reed. This side of the obelisk commemorates Reed’s father. He died in 1894? At age 81. 8. Milton Reed. Oldest brother who died in 1863. Reed spent years trying to locate his brother’s resting place and finally found it in the Corinth National Cemetery. 9. Helpful mower. View of the family plot with the groundskeeper who was very interested in learning of David Reed. The groundskeeper was so interested he called his wife who worked at the county courthouse with the result that he wanted us to visit Veterans Affairs and give information about Reed to them. So we did and they were not familiar with Reed and did not know he was the “Father of Shiloh National Military Park.” We suggested that a man of such stature should have a military stone marking his grave. The woman in charge said she would go out and take some pictures of Reed’s gravesite and see what she could do. Hopefully Reed will receive a military stone in the future. Our next move was to visit Clermont, Iowa and view the statue of David Bremer Henderson to honor another of the men who helped make the Shiloh National Military Park what it is today. 10. Episcopal Church – Clermont Iowa 11. Henderson Plaque 12-13. Henderson Statue That ended our first day but got us fired up to visit the college from which the “University Recruits” ventured forth in the summer of 1861 to fight for the Union. Professors Charles B. Clark and Roger B. Bowen wrote University Recruits—Company C published in 1991. In the book is a picture of the Company C field desk used during the war and presented to the University by David Reed. We wanted to see the field desk and find out if any of the buildings from before the civil war were still standing. We were not to be disappointed. UIU was not in session so it was easier to make a search (researching on campuses can be very frustrating locating a place to just park). We happened to find a parking spot right next to the library and decided to start there because sometimes institutions have displays of artifacts relevant to the history of the school. Bingo! We walked in and asked the librarian about the field desk and where it might be while all the while the desk was about 20 feet away from us in a display of civil war memorabilia relating to the university and the “University Recruits.” A large part of the exhibit was devoted to Dr. Charles Coleman Parker who served the 12th Iowa as surgeon with no small number of the soldiers crediting him with saving their lives. 14. Henderson statue – On the way to the library we were greeted by David Henderson. 15, 16, 17 – The coveted field desk. 18, 19 – Display case showing Shiloh books. 20. Captain Warner – died in 1863 21. Information sheet on the flag carried by Company C after Shiloh. I took this picture three times and then forgot to take a picture of the flag. 22. Overall exhibit showing a portion of the flag I missed. 23. Information sheet about the 12th Iowa and the Hornets’ Nest. 24. Dr. Charles Coleman Parker with display cases relevant to him. 25. Information sheet about how UIU came to be. A rich man wanted an education for his daughters. 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 – The original 1857 building that the “University Recruits” departed from has had several names. We went with “Old Main.” The interior has been redone since Reed’s time. (duh) The statue on top of the building was placed well after the civil war. The building has never suffered fire and the limestone blocks constructing it are massive. After completing our visit to UIU and learning that a cemetery, Grandview, existed outside town and that David Henderson was buried there we decided to resume the ghoulish portion of our day and go find it. We did not find Henderson’s grave but we found some others from Company C. 31. Dr. Charles Coleman Parker 32. R. Z. Latimer 33, 34, 35. George Comstock 36, 37. Henry Grannis – Color Bearer – See Ozzy’s post “Color Bearer” in the “Pop Quiz” category. 38. Philo Woods 39, 40. Edward Adams So what about David Henderson? After a fruitless search I told Dave that helpful locals are not always correct. I still remember the local in Ottawa, Illinois telling me that WHL Wallace was buried in the family plot sitting on top of his horse. A return to the library and searching on findagrave revealed a unique monument for David Bremer Henderson but it was located in Linwood Cemetery in Dubuque, Iowa. No problem. I was heading towards the Chicago area and Dubuque was on the way since I also wanted to make my first visit to Galena, Illinois and check out Grant’s House there. I arrived at Linwood Cemetery around 12:30 p.m. to find the office closed and a large cemetery with many trees and very hilly facing me. I searched for half an hour and then returned to the office that was supposed to open at 1 p.m. and saw a note that they were out on the grounds working. I had not seen anybody working. I resumed my own search of the grounds being careful not to drive off the road and over someone’s grave. No luck. Hundreds of monuments but none that looked like Henderson’s. I was loathe to leave without achieving the objective but I had been searching for over 75 minutes when I decided to give it one more shot and concentrate near the bluff overlooking the Mississippi River assuming Henderson would have been accorded a choice location. Viola!! Out of the corner of my eye, through the trees, I spotted the monument due to its unique design. 41, 42, 43, 44. The first photograph shows my first glance of the monument. The Mississippi River is in the background. I then moved on to the quaint river town of Galena, Illinois to visit Grant’s House. I did not know the Grant House was not the house he lived in prior to the start of the war. The house was given to Grant by the town after the war, 1865, completely furnished. Ninety percent of the furnishings are original to Grant. I asked the guide how Grant managed to keep possession of the house during his financial difficulties in the 1880s and she said that the town saw to it that the house remained in Grant’s possession. I then inquired as to whether the house Grant lived in just prior to the war still existed and found out that the house was still there at 121 High Street. I had never been to Galena and did not spend enough time there to see other places of interest and plan to return there sometime in the future. 45, 46. The Grant House 47, 48. The rental at 121 High Street. My friend Dave really enjoyed our excursions in search of David Reed and other members of the 12th Iowa. He has lived in the area for over forty years and had only visited the UIU campus once. We had a long talk with the archivist at the UIU library and she was really interested to learn the part David Reed played in the formation of the Shiloh National Military Park. We hope our visit encourages an increased understanding of the local population to the contribution David Reed made to Shiloh. With that I close wishing you all well, Hank
  28. 4 points
  29. 4 points
    I anted to let yall know how it went last evening.The rain held off and it was warm but we had about 750 attending the show.We had birthday cakes to cut so about only 175-200 gt a sliver.The music was excelent. But the main reason im posting this i for yall to listen to a song Daryl Worley did.( i dont have any of his records so this song wont be heard on the radio.you have to remember he grew up really accross the river from the battlefield.Before he did this song he told of growing up and hearing family stories of his ancestors hearing the battle.Few years ago a couple of his song writing buddies were coming to write but they first went and drove through the battlefield.And this song was their collaboration.Goggle...Daryl Worley-Shiloh...He doesnt mention Shiloh anywhere in the lyrics but you know.He played it last nite with only a backup guitar and keyboard so it really was more serene that the version you will hear....Let me know what you think, Mona
  30. 4 points
    Hi Russell and welcome to the group, You said you read voraciously so I went through my researched materials and came up with a few suggestions, which, I believe, will result in giving you a fair opportunity to understand this Shiloh battle. I was not going to post anything here since there was no request made for recommendations. But since members have now suggested certain books and opined that the selection of either Wiley Sword’s book or Tim Smith’s book is a good place to start I take this opportunity to voice my disagreement. Both Sword’s and Smith’s books are revisionist books on Shiloh in relation to the actions and heroism of Brigadier General Prentiss and the defenders in the Sunken Road. Those books reflect opinions of the last forty years only. The story of Shiloh is much longer than that. If you are going to read Shiloh revisionist books it is helpful to know what is being revised. To try to fully understand Shiloh it is also helpful to know how the actions of Prentiss and the defenders in the Sunken Road were misinterpreted for at least 20 years after the battle and it was not until the 1880s that the more accurate depictions of the actions of Prentiss and the defenders started to take shape. But even then it is possible to find accounts of Shiloh fifty years after the battle that still have Prentiss captured in the morning. I would recommend starting with O. E. Cunningham’s book, Shiloh and the Western Campaign of 1862. Although not published publicly until 2007 it was written in 1966 so it predates the unfortunate commencement of Shiloh revisionism of the early 1970s which started with Sword’s book. Larry Daniel’s book, Shiloh: The Battle That Changed the Civil War, published 1997, should be next because Daniel does not swallow the revisionist theme and you do not find the vitriol against Prentiss that was growing at that time. Those two books would give a good background on the battle of Shiloh which is needed before tackling the earlier Shiloh accounts. If you go to the early accounts without having some idea of how the battle was fought you will be at a disadvantage because the early accounts have lots of errors. However, I did find that the early accounts are accurate in many facets of the battle. But you have to have some familiarity with the battle to notice that. 1) Having prepared yourself by reading Cunningham and Daniel I suggest you start at the very beginning with the newspaper account by Whitelaw Reid. This account set the table for the false impression that the Union army was totally surprised and bayoneted in their beds. However, Reid’s account is long, he was there and it should not be dismissed out of hand because he has some things right. Reid’s account is actually difficult to find. Courtesy of Joseph Rose on another website I was referred to the Sacramento Daily Union of May 21, 1862 on the web page http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SDU18620521.2.6. The page has a text reader that scans the newspaper and it results in a text file. I then copied the text file into my ancient Word program and proceeded to edit out the errors in the scan as best I could. Here is the result: Whitelaw Reid - Sacramento Daily Union.doc. I uploaded it so I hope you can access it. 2) The next book is of utmost importance to a Shiloh student as it is the first book published about the Shiloh battle based mostly on the official reports and newspaper reports. The author is Orville James Victor and the book was published in June 1862 while Prentiss and the other defenders of the Sunken Road were wallowing in southern squalor. The title is Beadle’s American Battles, Dime Series, Pittsburgh Landing and the Siege of Corinth. As an example of the paltry depth of Shiloh revisionist research this book is not to be found as a source listed in any bibliography of a book on Shiloh of which I am aware. The most stunning aspect of this book is that the newspaper correspondents gave a fairly accurate description of the start of the battle by writing of the three companies of the 25th Missouri finding and engaging the Rebels early in the morning. Victor includes those newspaper accounts but then informs the readers that such descriptions of the opening of the battle are erroneous and he then goes on to describe how the battle actually started and that Veatch’s brigade was involved in it. Pretty sorry stuff but it is a good indication of just how confused and wrong the early accounts were in some particulars. The next stunning aspect is that Victor makes the correction of the newspaper accounts that had Prentiss surrendering early in the morning. Victor wrote that such a false fact needs correcting and he does so and this in June 1862 yet the falsehood lives on in many early accounts of the battle of Shiloh. I could find no digitized copy on the internet or even a library that had a copy of this book but providence delivered when I found I could obtain a copy of the book for $10 from http://www.sullivanpress.com/site/BCW129.html. (Australians might be required to pay a little more) The book is not carried in stock and if you order one you will receive it eventually as Mr. Sullivan runs his business out of his garage and produces the copies. So please be patient. Whoa, after writing the above I did find it online. Try http://discoverarchive.vanderbilt.edu/handle/1803/6800. They just put it up in late 2014. 3) Victor also published another book in 1862 titled Incidents and Anecdotes of the War: Together with Life Sketches of Eminent Leaders, and Narrative of the Most Memorable Battles for the Union and it is interesting to note what he had learned after the publication of the Beadle’s book. Not much, but whereas he did not acknowledge Prentiss was attacked first thing in the Beadle’s book he did so in this book. I found it on the internet at https://archive.org/details/incdentsanedot00vict. Victor then published an 1866 book along the same lines as his 1862 book but made no changes in the Shiloh account so he must have learned nothing new over those four years. 4) I include this next book because it is another example of an early book that notes that Prentiss did not surrender early in the morning and yet so many other books get it wrong. The author of this book also wrote dime novels for Beadle’s so she knew Victor and included some of his writing on Shiloh in her book. Yes, this author is a woman and I had to double check the name since it seemed so unusual for the times of the 1860s. The author is Ann Stephens and she was a writer of dime novels and her husband was the editor of a magazine so she was in the business. The book is titled Pictorial History of the War for the Union. A Complete and Reliable History of the War from its Commencement to Its Close. The book was published in 1863 and can be found here: https://archive.org/details/pictorialhistory02step 5) Next I recommend two books by Edward A. Pollard. Pollard was a newspaper editor in Richmond, Virginia and enjoyed eviscerating the administration of Jefferson Davis during the life of the Confederacy. He wrote a book in 1862 titled Southern History of the War. The First Year of the War which you can find here: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015056795845;view=1up;seq=27. Pollard’s southern view is outstanding as he chides those dastardly northerners for claiming Shiloh was a victory for them when it was obviously a victory for the South. Also, there was no criticism of Beauregard for calling off the attack. Now move to 1866 and Pollard’s The Lost Cause: A New Southern History of the War of the Confederates which can be found here: https://archive.org/details/lostcausenewsout00poll. In this later work Pollard is singing a different tune and Beauregard does not come off as well. Pollard was a young man during the war, just in his early thirties and he died at age 41. He did a great service to give posterity a southern perspective written during the war. 6) Here is a Confederate narrative of the Shiloh battle printed in a New Orleans paper in August 1862 by Alex. Walker. This is the website where it can be found. http://docsouth.unc.edu/imls/clarke/clarke.html. Confederate accounts are scarce and I recall that this was a good one. 7) William Swinton, a newspaper correspondent, wrote The Twelve Decisive Battles of the War in 1867. Of great importance for the history of Shiloh Swinton relates the opening of the battle fairly accurately when no one else does. He gives due credit to Peabody and Powell. His book can be found at: https://archive.org/details/twelvedecisiveba00swin. 8) An account that should be read in full is Adam Badeau’s account published in Military History of Ulysses S. Grant, from April, 1861, to April, 1865. Badeau was a Colonel and served as an aide-de-camp to Grant starting in February 1864. Why read Adam Badeau’s account of the battle of Shiloh published in 1868? Because it is so god awful. I was gobsmacked when I took the time to read the whole account for the first, and probably only, time. All I had read before were the accounts concerning the “poor generalship” shown by Prentiss. Grant apparently put great stock in Badeau’s accounts of his campaigns. You can find a copy here: https://books.google.com/books/about/Military_History_of_Ulysses_S_Grant.html?id=O9ZBAAAAIAAJ. This book was published in 1885 but the work was originally published in 1868. I have an 1868 copy but I could not locate it on the internet again. 9) The Sunken Road veterans hated Horace Greeley and his description of the battle in his The American Conflict: A History of the Great Rebellion of the United States of America, 1860-’65. The book was published in 1866. It is Horace Greeley and it is beneficial to know what the soldiers are referring to. Find it here: https://archive.org/stream/americanconflic04greegoog#page/n17/mode/2up 10) Moving forward to the 1870s there is the interesting account prepared by the Comte de Paris and published in 1876 with the title History of the Civil War in America. Shiloh is in volume 1. I did not reread all these but I believe I chose this account because it is 13 years after the battle and the Comte de Paris had access to many previous accounts and important individuals but his account carries forth previous inaccuracies. Find it here at: https://archive.org/stream/historycivilwar04nichgoog#page/n22/mode/2up. 11) Now move on to a lengthy account done by a participant in the battle. The account is found in The Annals of the War Written by Leading Participants North and South. Published in 1879 and it contains a Shiloh account written by Colonel Wills de Hass who shared a tent with Colonel Jesse Hildebrand near the Shiloh Church on the night of April 5, 1862. After 17 years the first accounts written by men who were there start to appear. https://archive.org/details/annalsofwar00philrich 12) Next is the book that is a must-read for anybody who wants to try to understand how the story of Shiloh developed over the years. The Life of General Albert Sidney Johnston written by his son, Colonel William Preston Johnston, and published in 1879. This book roiled the waves with its vivid descriptions of the fighting in the Hornets’ Nest and elsewhere. Preston Johnson’s language can be found in David Reed’s Shiloh book, Shiloh Commission reports on certain state monuments and other books whose authors simply conceded they could do no better and just quote Preston Johnston. Johnston had access to key Southern participants of the battle and had been an aide to Jefferson Davis during the war. In regards to Brigadier Generals W. H. L. Wallace and Benjamin Prentiss, the highest ranking officers defending the Sunken Road, Johnston wrote “The Federal Generals had consulted, and had resolved to stand and hold their ground at all hazards, hoping thus to save the rest of the army from destruction; and there is little doubt that their manful resistance, which cost one his life and the other his liberty, so checked the Southern troops as to gain time, and prevent the capture of Grant’s army.” Johnston gives a detailed analysis as to the condition of Grant’s army as the day waned. He wrote: “Of the two armies, one was now an advancing, triumphant host, with arms uplifted to give a mortal blow; the other, a broken, mangled, demoralized mob, paralyzed and waiting for the strike.” A later Shiloh author concurred with Johnston’s description when he noted the importance of the arrival of Buell’s division and that of Lew Wallace. He wrote in his book: “It was fortunate because the Army of the Tennessee was in shambles, particularly Prentiss’s and W, H, L. Wallace’s division. There are several options to locate this book and I will leave that up to you. 13) George Mason fought with the 12th Illinois on the left flank. He wrote one of the earlier accounts by a participant and presented it on May 5, 1880. He has Prentiss’s men shot in their beds which indicates how confused men were about what actually happened, even the men who were there. His paper can be found in: https://archive.org/details/militaryessays01chicrich. You want Volume 1 published in 1891. The title is Military Essays and Recollections. 14) Another book that should be readily found is Campaigns of the Civil War from Fort Henry to Corinth by M. F. Force published in 1881. At Shiloh Force was with Lew Wallace’s division (20th Ohio) and fought on the second day. His book has the Union perspective and it is Manning F. Force who put the word “sunk” in the Sunken Road. Shiloh revisionists are tormented by the fact that the veterans refer to the road in which they made their defense as the “Sunken Road” because it wasn’t sunken enough for their tastes. That is why I relish this book and recommend it. 15) In 1885 Theophile Poilpot painted the Shiloh panorama which was displayed in Chicago. This was a money making endeavor and revisionists are outraged that the promoters describe the defense in the Hornets’ Nest as the Thermopylae of the civil war. The promoters also had the gall to engage Benjamin Prentiss to entertain the visitors with stories about the battle. Fortunately the promoter’s pamphlet, Manual of the Panorama of the Battle of Shiloh was published in Chicago in 1885. It is available here: https://archive.org/details/manualofpanorama00croo The first part of the manual contains the hyped-up version of Shiloh that is intended to get people into the building. What is overlooked and is actually of more value is the Shiloh account written by L. B. Crooker of the 55th Illinois that fought with Colonel Stuart on the far left flank. 16) Ephraim Dawes was the adjutant to Col. Jesse Appler of the 53rd at Shiloh. Dawes studied Shiloh and produced a lengthy Shiloh account (72 pages) that was presented to the Military Historical Society of Massachusetts in two parts in 1893 and 1895. The papers are presented in the 1908 publication Campaigns in Kentucky and Tennessee including the Battle of Chickamauga 1862-1864. You can find it here: https://archive.org/details/campaignsinkent00massgoog. The timing of Dawes account is important because it was composed just prior to the formation of the Shiloh National Military Park so it gives a view of things as the park begins to be developed. 17) Now comes the most important book of all. David W. Reed’s The Battle of Shiloh and the Organizations Engaged first printed in 1902 and then with a slightly revised edition in 1909, which is usually the one you find. Reed fought with the 12th Iowa in the Hornets’ Nest and avoided capture because he was too severely wounded for the Rebels to take him from the battlefield. In 1895 Reed was chosen to be the historian for the Shiloh National Military Park and it is he who wrote the text on the hundreds of metal tablets in the park and wrote his book. Reed was entrusted to produce a truthful history of the battle to memorialize the men who fought there. Modern revisionists claim Reed violated that trust by using “subtle subjectivity” (whatever that means) in preparation of his book and put unwarranted emphasis on the fighting in the Hornets’ Nest because that is where he fought. On page 31 of The Untold Story of Shiloh, The Battle and the Battlefield is found “…Reed developed the Hornet’s Nest interpretation of the battle, which still incorrectly dominates Shiloh historiography today.” (emphasis added) In the introduction of the 2008 reprint of Reed’s book by the University of Tennessee Press, page xix, is found “He (Reed) wrote that the book was intended to be ‘complete, impartial, and correct’ so that the history of the battle could be presented as ‘nothing but the truth.’ Fortunately for later generations he succeeded.” (emphasis added) So which is it? One author says Reed was "incorrect" while the other author says he was "correct." Reed’s book is extremely important and anyone interested in Shiloh should read it and make up their own mind as to the veracity of Reed’s work. How you obtain a copy is up to you as there are several good options. 18) Stanley Waterloo wrote a well-received version of the battle that is included in Illinois at Shiloh - Report of the Shiloh Battlefield Commission published in 1905 and available here: https://archive.org/stream/illinoisatshiloh00illi#page/n7/mode/2up 19) Edwin Hobart of the 28th Illinois which fought in the Peach Orchard spent approximately three years producing The Truth About Shiloh that he published in 1908. He discusses in detail the location and extent of the Hornets’ Nest and how much he hates Buell. Hobart points out that the 31st and 44th Indiana regiments of Lauman’s brigade were part of the Hornets’ Nest defense until repositioned around 2:30 PM to the left flank. However, good luck in obtaining a copy to read. The book does not appear to have been digitized and few libraries have it. The copy I found was at the Iowa State Archives. Perhaps one of the libraries is willing to lend their copy out on interlibrary loan. If you can get a copy to read you will not be disappointed. 20) Another Shiloh gem that needs to be included is Joseph Rich’s Shiloh published in 1911 as a book but was printed a couple years earlier in "The Iowa Journal of History and Politics" . One of the important aspects of this book is that for the first time a publication acknowledged that the early morning patrol by Major Powell was sent out on the orders of Colonel Peabody. Numerous surviving veterans credited Rich with producing the best account of the battle of Shiloh to date. It is available here: https://archive.org/details/battleofshiloh00rich 21) For a romanticized view of Shiloh the short book written by Shiloh Superintendent DeLong Rice should be read so one can judge how this book might have contributed to the Sunken Road and Hornets’ Nest story. The title is The Story of Shiloh and was published in 1919. Rice was superintendent after David Reed starting in 1920 and continued until September 1929 when a gas explosion in the Superintendent’s residence killed him and his son. The book can be found here: https://archive.org/details/storyofshiloh01rice 22) In 1921 Samuel Meek Howard produced a long Shiloh account. He was there with the 28th Illinois 59 years previous. A copy of what might well be the last lengthy account by a participant can be found in the publication The Illustrated Comprehensive History of the Great Battle of Shiloh. It appears he self-published it and a copy can be found here: https://archive.org/details/illustratedcompr1921howa 23) Over the next 50 years the only publication of a Shiloh account I have found so far is the 1946 book The Story of Shiloh by Otto Eisenschiml. A copy can be obtained from here: https://archive.org/details/storyofshiloh00eise. If you are so impressed with Otto’s book, particularly with his correct interpretation that General Benjamin Prentiss is the real hero of Shiloh, you may pay homage to Otto by visiting the monument for the 55th Illinois. Otto believed he had ancestors in that regiment and that fueled his quest for the truth about the battle of Shiloh. In his will he requested that his ashes be spread around the monument for the 55th Illinois and that is where they are to this day. 24) We now enter the dark times for Shiloh history, the revisionist era. Shiloh – in Hell before Night written by James Lee McDonough and published in 1977 is a recommendation because you can learn something different and it was one of the first full-length treatments of the Battle of Shiloh. Copies of this book should be readily available. 25) "The Blue & Gray" issue of the battle of Shiloh by park historian Stacy Allen. This is a succinct account and is of importance due to Stacy’s influence on the story of the battle for the last couple decades and beyond. I know they have copies of the magazine, actually labeled a visitors guide, at the book store at Shiloh but the "Blue & Gray" site did not list it so I am not sure how you could obtain a copy. 26) Now, enjoy Wiley Sword’s book Shiloh: Bloody April, because you will understand the battle well enough that you will be able to follow the story and not get lost. 27) Same for Tim Smith’s book, Shiloh: Conquer or Perish. I trust all the links I put in this post will work correctly. If not, you should be able to find the targeted materials just by searching for them. Actually, you might find better sites than those I used After it was decided to surrender the garrison at Fort Donelson Nathan Bedford Forrest said he would lead his men out if he saved but one man. I feel the same about Shiloh revisionism. I will use my research to try to keep someone from sliding down the slippery slope of Shiloh revisionism if I save but one. Hank P.S. I am still waiting for a revisionist to provide some proof about where and when Prentiss personally took credit for sending out Powell’s patrol (not where someone else gave Prentiss the credit but where Prentiss took the credit himself), and where were all those speeches given by Prentiss after he was released from prison in which he took credit for saving the army? The revisionists claim Prentiss went on a speaking tour after release from prison so where were those speeches given and when? Whitelaw Reid - Sacramento Daily Union.doc
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    Thank you, Tony, for sharing these wonderful videos of Bjorn's recent tour of Colonel Worthington and the 46th Ohio's positions at Shiloh. It means a great deal to those of us who were not able to see the tours in person.
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    Shiloh's other Particpants.pdf Jim
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    Laura...... I am certainly enjoying your meaningful, insightful Shiloh posts. As a photographer, genealogist and student of civil war, I can appreciate the research you've put into your family member search! Ozzy is a good source of information. I've learned a few things from him, as well. Keep up the good work! You, too, Ozzy!!! THE MANASSAS BELLE
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    Perry....... First, I'd like you to give your talk on Peabody. Who knows him better than you?!!! Second, I'd like a tour of the history of the major monuments, their symbolisms, significance and dedications. Third, a tour on the evolution of the park during the various periods after the battle (including the proposed electric trolley line!) THE MANASSAS BELLE
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    My photos from this past weekend's Epic Trek are HERE if anyone is interested. Great time of hiking, learning, and fellowship.
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    The Confederate dead numbered 1728, if I am to believe my Battlefield America map [and is the number given by David W Reed (pbuhn)]. Do we really think that 700 of them fell in the assault upon the Sixth Division? (OK, I know that someone will claim that the 16th Wisconsin killed them all.)
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    It was great meeting the two of you on Thursday! I had an absolute blast and am so glad i was able to spend the day with others who enjoy learning about the battle as much as me. Hopefully I can make another one soon!
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    Crump's Landing (before 1904. Looks like the "strong gate to keep out Yankees" finally disappeared...) From Indiana at Shiloh: report of the Commission; compiled by John W. Coons.
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    This is a picture I took at Shiloh last fall. Who wants to take a crack at naming where it is? Here's a kinda sorta hint: It's not the Sunken Road.
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    Congratulations, Perry, on your 10 years of Shiloh Discussion Group leadership! It's difficult to believe that time flies by that fast. I still remember the early days on Prodigy (close to 15 years prior to the SDG) when our Civil War group spent hours in live chats discussing the Civil War (Shiloh included). I also remember your dedication to writing well researched civil war articles while we both frequented Suite 101 on the Internet. (You even let me write a guest article a time or two.) Walking the fields of Shiloh with you, I, too, developed a keen sense of the history, beauty and peacefulness of that battlefield which still remains with me today. While I may not post as much now as I once did (life gets in the way sometimes), I still enjoy reading the posts from all the SDG members. I, too, have made many friends on the site and have enjoyed discussing the battle and meeting some of them on other sites or in person. Here's to the continued success of your site and 'Happy Birthday' to all the SDGers out there! THE MANASSAS BELLE
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    I doubt that a horse could cover 2 1/2 miles in five minutes. Secretariat won the 1 1/4-mile Kentucky Derby in 1:59 2/5 minutes in 1973. Only one other horse has broken the 2-minute barrier for the Derby. He won the 1 1/2-mile Belmont Stakes in 2:34. The tracks are, of course, flat and well-groomed, and those race horses are going full bore. I doubt that the pace could be sustained for a distance of five miles, especially over the roads of Pittsburgh Landing.
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    In 1959 Ed Bearss produced a set of maps for FortDonelson that are Troop Movement Maps covering the positions of the troops from February 12, 1862 through 5:00 P.M. on February 15, 1862. There are ten maps in the set covering the positions of the regiments at various times over the four days. Hopefully they will have some of these sets available in the temporary visitor’s center for those interested. The FortHenry and FortDonelson campaign was chosen in 1912 to be a campaign worthy of study at the GeneralServiceSchool at FortLeavenworth. The school compiled source material into a large volume (1488 pages) into a book cited as: FortHenry and FortDonelson campaigns, February, 1862. Source book. The General service schools, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, 1923. You see this book referenced in works of the campaign and this is an explanation of what is being referred to when an author references – The Source Book. Unfortunately, the book has not been digitized for downloading as of yet. I borrowed a copy of the book several years ago through interlibrary loan and copied information I thought I could not get elsewhere. A large part of the book contains copies of the reports contained in the Official Records. I am planning to make it to Dover the night of November 3rd and stay at the Dover Inn. I figured I would use Friday the 4th to refresh my memory of the fort and the surrounding areas and see what might have changed since I was there for the 150th anniversary. I am fairly familiar with the FortDonelson fight and if anybody else is going to be around on November 4th and wants to make a preliminary reconnaissance of the area we will be walking on Saturday, or anywhere else related to the campaign, I would be glad to share what I know. That includes you Michelle. Hank
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    As I am facing a rather long drive to Ft Donelson from western Pennsylvania, I will lead a hike (or two) of my own at Ft Henry on Sunday, November 6, weather and foot condition permitting. I don't want to drive that far for a single day of hiking. Possible hikes can be found at https://www.landbetweenthelakes.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/FortHenry2015.pdf I have never visited the site, so I have no idea as what we can expect to see. I don't anticipate doing a whole lot of research in preparation for guiding this hike (or hikes) - I am presenting a talk on John Hunt Morgan to my local Civil War Round Table on the evening before I depart for Tennessee, so that will be getting most of my attention. Barring a severe drought, I do not anticipate visiting Ft Henry itself.
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    Much has been said of the 'cantankerous and contrary' David Reed, seemingly growing more obstinate with age; the 'Father of Shiloh' appeared to act as a block to reasonable requests for markers at the Park to be adjusted, or placed, as individuals desired. One of my favourite stories relates to a special visit made in November 1901, when a veteran of the April 1862 battle returned to Pittsburg Landing in order to refamiliarize himself with the topography, prior to releasing his autobiography for publication. Lew Wallace had developed the belief, that at the time his Division was ordered to take that other bridge (Wallace Bridge, on the River Road over Snake Creek), and just before he counter-marched his force back north and east and south, the leading element of his division was within sight of Owl Creek Bridge; to General Wallace, it appeared to be a case of 'so close... and yet, so far.' The aging general had even brought along a marker that he intended to erect at the location, indicating the furthest advance of his 3rd Division on that fateful Sunday, April 6th. But, Major Reed would have none of it: he refused to allow General Wallace to place his marker where he believed it should go. Instead, Reed convinced Lew Wallace to re-visit that Sunday trek, from Crump's Landing, through Stoney Lonesome, south and west along the route of the old Shunpike, and 'see what facts were thrown up.' And Reed agreed to come along. Near the end of the process, after a journey of several hours, Lew Wallace came to a rise overlooking a distant bridge, and remarked, 'This is it. My cavalry -- the 5th Ohio -- had nearly reached that bridge; the infantry got to right here.' Are you sure?' asked the Major. 'Positive,' snapped the General. 'This is exactly as I remember.' 'Well...' replied Reed, rubbing his chin. 'That's actually what I had come to believe, too.' 'But, you said...' Lew Wallace spun a confused face towards Reed, and demanded: 'What do you mean?' 'That,' indicated Major Reed, 'is the upper bridge over Clear Creek... Owl Creek Bridge is four miles further on.' [For a better telling of the story, see the 10-page reference, below.] Ozzy http://archive.org/stream/generallewwallac00rich/generallewwallac00rich_djvu.txt
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    As I have done for the past several years, attached is an Adobe PDF of all the hikes and tours for anniversary number 154! Of course, you can also print this out if that works for you. Looking forward to seeing everyone! Unfortunately I need to leave mid afternoon of the 6th, but 4 days ain't bad! If you see a typo let me know. Bruce 154th Battle Anniversary Hikes and Tours.pdf
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    Perry, The new update to the Board is working fine and I like it. Well Done. May I ask you if there is any way to access the posts on the old original Board. There use to be a way to see them but it seems to have gone away. There was some very good posts on that old Board. I hope they are not lost. I enjoy the Shiloh Board any way I can get it. Ron
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    Shiloh has gotten it's fair share of rain. Lotsa standing water. Good reason to dig a trench around your camp: The Bloody Pond has gotten a little larger: Dill Branch is now Dill Lake: The bouy marker that was south of where Dill entered the Tenn. River moved a few hundred yards north: Notice the tree in the middle of the river moving past the Landing: Tilghman Branch isn't too bad: Likewise Shiloh Branch: As I was taking this picture at Shiloh Branch, it occurred to me that the water was flowing west. It would then go northwest to Owl Creek, turn north to Snake Creek, where it will head east and then south into the Tenn. River, where it will turn back north to the Ohio River. From there it's west to the Mississippi and south to the Gulf. Of course, a week of warm rain and then a day of 70 degrees will send Mother Nature into a frenzy of glory: Jim
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