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  1. I tend to take David Lloyd Jones's account with a grain of salt and do not use him as a primary source unless collaborated by other sources. I don't believe any of the four companies returned to camp before the battle and went from picket duty straight to fighting. It doesn't make sense for picket companies to leave their post and return to camp without being relieved nor do I believe they would have gone to breakfast as the fight was starting. Jim
  2. I don't believe that Companies B, C and D returned to camp at the beginning of the battle. Everything I've found has the four picket Companies joining Col. Moore at the beginning of the battle. Timothy Smith in "Shiloh: Conquer or Perish" states: "By this time, Peabody had already sent out more of his brigade to aid Powell's outnumbered command. Powell was retreating to his camps, but arriving columns changed his mind - first those of the 16th Wisconsin pickets , who were now the front line, ...." I've never found where B, C and D go after the patrol is driven back, but Company A does rejoin the regiment. Wiley Sword in "Shiloh: Bloody April" has Company A returning to camp with the bodies of Saxe & Williams and of Woodyard's command "Here they were joined by three other companies of the 16th Wisconsin Infantry that also had been on picket duty." Cunningham in "Shiloh and the Western Campaign of 1862" has Company A joining Col. Moore at the beginning and then Capt. Fox of Company B running into camp with the warning. I believe Fox made his statement to the other three picket Companies and not in the camp. They then join Moore/Woodyard. Jim
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    Corinth 154th

    The interpretive has posted the anniversary schedule: Corinth Anniversary Events 2016 Date & Time Everyday from 10/03/2016 to 10/05/2016 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Fee Information FREE Monday, October 3, 2016 10:00 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. ----Civilians in Corinth Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Hiking Distance: Car Caravan and ¼ mile walk Type of Terrain: Short distances on city sidewalks. Join Ranger Rachel Winters on a guided walk through historic Corinth to explore the roles of civilians in war-torn Corinth.While most of the town's citizens fled with the Confederate withdrawal in May 1862, some did stay in town throughout the Union occupation.Many volunteers came from across the country to tend the wounded throughout the war, and thousands came in search of freedom.On this caravan and walking tour, participants will visit several historic homes and sites that witnessed the battle and learn about the civilians of Civil War Corinth. 1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. ----Fight at Battery F Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Hiking Distance: 200 yards Type of Terrain: Short distances on an easy grassy slope. In July 1862, Henry Halleck ordered the construction of a defensive line of artillery redoubts to protect Corinth against any force approaching from the west and south.By late summer, all six of the redoubts were constructed including Battery F. Park Ranger Tom Parson will lead a driving tour to Battery F to explore events which occurred in and around this location.The program will discuss the construction of the Halleck line, Brig. Gen. John McArthur's counter attack northwest of Battery F, Brig. Gen. John C. Moore's attack on Battery F and the later defense of the battery by Crocker's Iowa Brigade. 2:00 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. ---- Davies' Thin Blue Line Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Hiking Distance: Car Caravan Type of Terrain: Short distances of easy walking. On the morning of October 3rd Brigadier General Thomas Davies was sent forward by Major General William Rosecrans with confusing orders and 1,500 men to hold the Union right against an attack by Confederate Major General Sterling Price's Army of the West with 9,000 men.Overwhelmed at the old Confederate earthworks, Davies would pull back to the White House line to make a stand.Aided by hard fighting, intense heat, and Confederate command confusion, Davies men would hold until relieved at 4:30 p.m.During this stand Brigadier General Charles Hamilton would have a perfect opportunity to attack the exposed Confederate left flank.Due to a series of confused orders and Hamilton's lack of initiative, the attack would be bungled and occur too late.The car caravan lead by Ranger Timothy Arnold will travel to the site of the Confederate earthworks of the old Beauregard Line and the site of the fighting at the White House fields. Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:00 p.m. to 10:30 a.m. ---- Daniel Murray and the 1st U.S. Infantry Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Hiking Distance: 100 yards Type of Terrain: Easy on a grassy slope. Join Ranger Tom Parson as he gives a first-person account of Daniel Murray, an Irish immigrant and American solider. Daniel describes his life in the Regular Army at the outbreak of the war through the fighting at Battery Robinett.Prior to the Civil War Daniel served in Indian Territory and fought at the battle of Wilson's Creek, Missouri.During the Battle of Corinth, he was one of 26 men from Company C, 1st U.S. Infantry, who was manning the heavy artillery inside of Battery Robinett. 11:30 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. ---- Battery Robinett: The Confederate Perspective Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Hiking Distance: Car Caravan Type of Terrain: Easy on grassy slopes. The climax of the Battle of Corinth was in front of the small fort known as Battery Robinett.Join Park Ranger Tom Parson and experience this tragic assault in the words of the Confederate soldiers who fought here.Officers and enlisted men of the 42nd Alabama Infantry and the 9th Texas Cavalry were among the survivors of the battle and they recorded their harrowing experience in letters and journals.The walk will follow the route of this desperate charge all the way to the very ditch in front of Battery Robinett. This program will take place 154 years to the hour of the actual charge. 1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. ---- Stirman's Arkansas Sharpshooters Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Hiking Distance: 700 yards Type of Terrain: Easy on a grassy slope and concrete. Join Volunteer Jim Minor for a walking tour from the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center to the historic railroad crossing. This program will discuss General Earl Van Dorn's orders to establish a sharpshooter battalion as well as explore Col. Ras Stirman's Arkansas Sharpshooters' flanking movement, penetration of the Union lines, and ultimate arrival at the strategic crossroads. The discussion will also look at the movements of Dee's Michigan Battery and the 5th Minnesota Infantry. 3:30 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. ---- Wager Swayne and the Medal of Honor Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Hiking Distance: 200 yards Type of Terrain: Easy on a grassy slope. Join Ranger Tom Parson on a short walk to discover the challenges faced by Lt. Col. Wager Swayne during the heat of battle.The program will discuss how the decisions he made leading the men of the 43rd Ohio Infantry resulted in him being awarded the Medal of Honor. Wednesday, October 5, 2016 9:00 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. ---- Hell on the Hatchie: Davis Bridge Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Driving Distance: 35 miles round trip Hiking Distance: Car Caravan and ½ mile walking Type of Terrain: Easy walking on a path and dirt road. Following the Battle of Corinth, the Confederate Army of West Tennessee was in full retreat.The heavy fighting at the Battle of Corinth, October 3 &4, 1862, had crippled the army under Major General Earl Van Dorn and he sought to return to Mississippi to rest and refit his forces.The path to safety led across Davis Bridge on the Hatchie River in Tennessee.In an effort to block the Confederate escape, a Union column under Major General Edward O. C. Ord was dispatched from Bolivar, Tennessee.Park Ranger Tom Parson will lead this car caravan tour and short walk of the Davis Bridge Battlefield. 1:00 p.m. to 1:30 p.m. ---- Flags of Corinth Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Hiking Distance: None Type of Terrain: None Join Ranger Tom Parson in a discussion of the various flags used in the Battle of Corinth. In the 1890's a controversy began over the capture of the 9th Texas Cavalry flag by Orrin Gould of the 27th Ohio Infantry. Veterans of the 9th Texas Cavalry disputed the captured flag was from their regiment and claimed it actually came from the 2nd Texas Infantry. The recent announcement of the discovery and preservation of the flag of the 2nd Texas Infantry may finally put an end to the disagreement. 2:00 p.m. to 2:30 p.m. ----First Steps of Freedom: Corinth Contraband Camp Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Hiking Distance: ¼ mile Type of Terrain: Easy on a level sidewalk. The migration of African American refugees into occupied Corinth dramatically increased following issuance of the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation by President Abraham Lincoln on September 22, 1862.To accommodate the refugees, Union Gen. Grenville M. Dodge established a camp northeast of town.Join park volunteer Patrice Gaines to explore the camp and to discover how the Corinth Contraband Camp was the first step on the road to freedom for thousands of people. 3:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. ---- Caring for the Wounded and Dead Meet at the Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Auditorium Hiking Distance: None Type of Terrain: None Three days of fighting at Corinth and Davis Bridge resulted in over 8,000 men killed, wounded or captured.Many of the wounded were taken to Corinth's homes and hotels which had been pressed into service as hospitals.This power point presentation, led by Ranger Rachel Winters, will discuss some of these impromptu hospitals, such as the Tishomingo Hotel, Corinth House, and Corona Female College, and the people who served in them.In the days following the battle, over 900 fresh graves were dug.This program will discuss the burial process for those fallen soldiers, both Union and Confederate. ,"ht-Ry��F� Location: Corinth Civil War Interpretive Center Time: 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Fee Information: FREE Contact Name: Ashley Berry Contact Phone Number: 662-287-9273
  4. I'll call Monday and put a rider on my coverage. A Flock of Raging Bulls umbrella, as it were. Jim
  5. I'm more than happy to blaze the trail for you Oz. Jim
  6. Thanks Doc, and yes it would be.
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    Quaker cannon

    Note the new tap handle. I've been looking for a Civil War related tap handle since last winter with no luck. I figured my best hope was something cannon shaped. Then I came upon this web site: https://www.etsy.com/shop/customwoodnc... I sent him a message if to see if he could make one in the form of a mortuary monument cannon. He asked for a picture, so I sent him a shot of Peabody's Shiloh monument. This is what he made for me: it occurs to me that it could be considered a quaker cannon. I do believe I first learned of Ron's raging flock of bulls in relation to Doc Patterson's quaker cannon. Sure hope this one doesn't attract em.
  8. http://www.oshkoshmuseum.org/Virtual/exhibit3/e30281b.htm
  9. The practice during the war was that the north named their army's after a river, i.e. The Army of the Tennessee. The south named theirs after an area, i.e. The Army of Tennessee. I'm not sure when it became an official policy. It did tend to confuse me in my youth. What the H E double toothpicks was the 16th WI doing in The Army of the Tennessee? Sounded like a Reb army to me. Jim
  10. “Your Family On A Battlefield” Photo Contest! This summer, people across America are stepping onto battlefields. Families are going on trips to learn about our nation’s history and exploring our greatest conflicts. We want you to share your special moments with us! Submit a photo of you or your family members on a battlefield: a national, state or local park, or even preserved land owned by the Civil War Trust. Take a snapshot of you and your spouse on a hike, children with a park ranger, or grandparents taking in a monument—anything that you can capture! The photo contest is being held on our Facebook page (but you do not need a Facebook account to participate). You can find the page to upload your photos here. When you’re uploading your submission, please be sure to include a caption to tell us which battlefield you are visiting, and who is in the photo. Please note that your submission will not immediately appear in the gallery after you have uploaded it. We have received some great submissions so far: Children walking the battlefields where their ancestors fought, multi-generational families visiting monuments for the first time together, even throwback photos from when some of our members were kids! If you’re looking for a camera-worthy event, join us for an unforgettable experience in Gettysburg on Saturday, September 3: Attack and Defend Little Round Top! Bring someone at least one generation younger—family member or friend—and share your passion for history at this FREE event. Space is limited, so make sure to RSVP for this Generations event. Whether its Gettysburg, Pea Ridge, Fort Sumter, or Kennesaw - we can’t wait to see your photos!
  11. Tim is a former Shiloh Park ranger, not superintendent. Tim's work seems to follow the battle reassessment, looking at the battle in total vs. concentrating on the Hornets Nest, begun by Cunningham.
  12. Interesting. You spit out the word revisionists like it taste bad in your mouth while at the same time you present a revisionist's version on C.F. Smith. Self loathing, or is it that it's OK for just you to question the written record? Jim
  13. WI16thJim

    Howdy

    Those pyrrhic victories can sure wear an army down.
  14. Jeeez Perry. Looks like a can of worms got opened!
  15. WI16thJim

    Howdy

    Ozzy, " With 1029 more casualties, obviously the Federals did not win..." I've always considered that the side that holds the battlefield when all is said and done determines who won the battle. Jim
  16. Anyone notice we have just reached 300 members? Isn't it time for our illustrious leader to provide an all expenses paid trip to Shiloh contest to celebrate? Jim
  17. I believe the part near the road and the house area.
  18. Doc Patterson said he was keeping the house and some of the land. Jim
  19. Ron, isn't that the spot where you 1st encountered your flock of raging bulls? Jim
  20. The CWT has announced they are attempting to acquire a large part of Dr. Patterson's property on the south border: http://www.civilwar.org/battlefields/shiloh/maps/shilohmap.html Jim
  21. Stacy Allen is still @ Shiloh. I think he is a permanent fixture. Jim
  22. I think you are off as to A.S. Johnston's troop strength. He had to know the Yanks were going to invade, but where? Down the west bank of the Mississippi? Down the Mississippi? Up the Tenn. River? Up the Cumberland River? East Tenn. from Virginia (future West Virginia)? Moving a large army east and west in a hurry would have been impossible. By strengthening any one place, he would have weakened another, making that point vulnerable to rapid invasion to which he would have been hard pressed to meet in a timely manner. Johnston was in a damned if you, damned if you don't hopeless situation. Jim
  23. WI16thJim

    Hello All

    If Grant's army would have been destroyed or captured @ Shiloh, the whole war could have been lost. The Rebels would have had free reign in the West for at least a year. Grant, Sherman and possibly other important Yankee leaders would have been disgraced or even killed, which would have set back the future successes in the East and the West. Foreign governments may have seen the victory as a good reason to recognize the south. The repercussions would have echoed for years. And the the worst possible outcome, the 16th WI could have gotten wiped out, killing my grandfather and preventing my birth. Jim
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