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Interesting that the arguing continued long after the War--- Lost Cause and such... will post more stuff from the newspapers-- interesting, Tom Arliskas

ooops wrong post--- but a good read anyway!

Found this in a series of old newspapers. That Beauregard was the one who drew up the plan of Battle for Shiloh-- and some say it was Johnston-- Even in 1885 they had their own discussion group on Shiloh! Shiloh 1885.pdf

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of more importance to the Battle of Shiloh is the observation of General Bragg as to the condition of the Confederate Army concentrating in Corinth. Bragg was appalled at the supply situation and the discipline of the troops. He called them, "a mob" and not an Army. He was ordered to get them some training and to do his best to prepare them for Battle. Their weapons were inferior. They had plenty of cannons, but not enough trained crews to man them. A point to make for the Battle of Shiloh-- Johnston went in on a hope and a prayer that surprise and the bayonet would win the day. Braxton Bragg agreed with that after what he witnessed. Not saying the Southerners were not brave or worthy, just that they were thrown into Battle with little formal training and a lack of needed supplies-- Class A firearms one of them...

Me neither--- Hard to find specific Regiments--

I meant to say Beauregard not Johnston--- The 77th Ohio were armed with Prussian Smoothbore Muskets .70 Caliber? or bigger-- I would love to read that letter someday. I believe sincerely that the Battle of Shiloh can be given the same treatment as the Battle of Gettysburg. Gee Wiz--- They have their own Magazine-- and conferences every year!!! And a National Battlefield that attracts millions of visitors! I am not taking away from all that--- I love to visit Gettysburg. I am simply saying Shiloh has not been researched to the depth of Gettysburg.-- Thank You rwaller.

Probably----

Great find Ozzy! I am finding a lot of quotes from Federal Soldiers that state the high number of dead Confederates scattered in front on the Union Left under Sherman, Prentiss, and Wallace. It could be Johnston did not want the Confederate people to know the extent of the damage done to the Army.

OK--- If we do it-- it will exciting-- I have a lot of work to do writing-- but, we can do a neat monograph on Shiloh--- for the masses. I am in an won't get involved until Winter this year... tom

Stan-- You would have to go by Division I think--- and, as to type of firearm seen most often-- It is hard for me to categorize by Model or year. To me it is just Rifles vs. Smoothbores. The one Rifle I note-- the Hall Rifle-- it had a distance of only 180 yards out-- firing a round ball-- same if someone with a Mississippi or a Civilian Rifle shooting a round ball-- they were good only to 180 yards-- now you put a minie in a Mississippi-- they are good for 300 to 400 yards out-- The Enfield in their manual says they are good out to 600 yards-- if you can see that far! I am working on something new for Shiloh-- will let you know how it works out. AND! People want me to do a monograph or book on Shiloh----- Are you game? I could use your help on photos etc.-- Uniforms, Weapons and Flags and Other Stuff--- that would be the title!

This is a first listing of the Army of the Ohio under Don Carlos Buell, a listing of the firearms carried by these Regiments at Shiloh. Again if you have any corrections or additions or questions- please post- Grant's Army coming soon-- This is not the final count or rendering-- but I am 99% sure this is it-- Army of the Ohio—Second Division 4th Brigade 1st Ohio Infantry—740 Prussian Muskets and 200 Enfield Rifles for flank Companies 6th Indiana--- Model 1842 Rifled Muskets 5th Kentucky--- Enfield Rifles U.S. Regulars—15th, 16th, 19th --- New Springfield Rifles 5th Brigade 29th Indiana---Enfield Rifles 30th Indiana--- Enfield Rifles 34th Illinois--- Model 1842 Rifled Muskets 77th Pennsylvania--- Springfield and Enfield Rifles 6th Brigade 15th Ohio--- 730 Model 1842 Rifled Muskets 32nd Indiana--- Initially Greenwood Rifles, all Enfield Rifles by Shiloh 49th Ohio--- 700 Model 1842 Rifled Muskets and 180 Enfield Rifles Fourth Division 10th Brigade 6th Ohio--- 580 U.S. Percussion Muskets, [smoothbores], 120 Enfield Rifles 24th Ohio—840 U.S. Percussion Muskets, [smoothbores], 212 Enfield Rifles 36th Indiana--- Enfield Rifles 19th Brigade 9th Indiana--- Model 1855 Rifled Muskets 41st Ohio--- 680 Model 1842 Rifled Muskets, 200 Enfield Rifles 6th Kentucky--- Enfield Rifles 22nd Brigade 1st Kentucky--- Austrian Rifles. 54 Caliber 2nd Kentucky--- Enfield Rifles 20th Kentucky--- Model 1842 Rifled Muskets 5th Division 11th Brigade 19th Ohio--- 600 Pondir Rifles, 200 Enfield Rifles 59th Ohio--- 200 Enfield Rifles, rest in the Field? 13th Kentucky--- Model 1842 Rifled Muskets 14th Brigade 11th Kentucky--- Enfield Rifles 13th Ohio--- 800 Model 1842 Rifled Muskets, 190 Enfield Rifles 26th Kentucky--- Enfield Rifles 20th Brigade {not engaged} 13th Michigan--- Springfield Rifles- Model 1861 64th Ohio--- Springfield Rifles- Model 1861 65th Ohio--- Springfield Rifles- Model 1861 21st Brigade 15th Indiana--- Springfield Rifles 40th Indiana--- Austrian Rifles .54 Caliber 57th Indiana--- 6 Companies Prussian Musket [smoothbores], 4 Companies Enfield Rifles 24th Kentucky--- Springfield Rifles

They were rifled .69 caliber. Awesome firearms-- I have here right next to me-- came out of Wisconsin-- I am sure it was used at Shiloh??$$%!!-- That is my story and I am sticking to it.--

Yeah well----- I have been working on my presentation for the Battle of Shiloh Seminar to be held this Fall at the Kenosha Civil War Museum September 15th. I will be sharing the stage with Professor Tim Smith-- Larry J. Daniel, Army of the Tennessee specialist and Bjorn Skaparsan of Ranger Shiloh fame! So I have to do a good job! It took me weeks to do the Confederates and that is not done. I will provide the list when I can after I get my talk on paper and a powerpoint-- You need a powerpoint for uniforms and flags. Here is a total for all, Grants Army of the Tennessee, 30, 759 Rifles and 11, 907 smoothbores. Buells Army 17, 921 and only 2,476 smoothbores. I am still working on this.--- These are close approximates.--- I have it all in my notes--- Maybe I will write a book about it???????????? Tom

I myself have trouble with the term BELGIAN-- when it comes to firearms... Many imports had the word Liege on the locks-- Tom