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  1. 14th Wisconsin Dresden Suhl Rifles-- class A weapons 15th Illinois-- a hodge podge-- Companies A, B, G, and E- Enfield Rifles-- the rest .69 cal smoothbores, Co. C of all things old British Tower Muskets 77th Ohio- Armed in the Field, Austrian-Belgian conversions .69 cal smoothbores... Prussian Muskets 70th Ohio- 264 Austrian rifles-- Belgian Conversion smoothbores-- then Regimental History says Enfields right before Shiloh.
  2. The 11th Michigan Volunteer Infantry Regiment on Dec 2 1861 received Prussian muskets.[9] Flank Companies received Springfield model 1857 instead the Prussian muskets which the rest of the regiment had received.[10] The 11th Infantry received 800 smooth bore Prussian muskets and 200 French rifled muskets. The 12th Michigan Volunteer Infantry Regiment was issued part of the 4,000 Austrian rifled muskets that had recently arrived. The 13th Michigan Volunteer Infantry Regiment was issued arms from the same shipment as the 12th Regiment. Another report indicates that the first arms they received were Springfield rifles.[11] The 14th Michigan Volunteer Infantry Regiment originally received one hundred State owned smooth bore muskets. The 14th Infantry, Mulligan Regiment, Quinn Regiment and Stuart Regiment received Austrian rifles on January 29 1862. The 12th Michigan Volunteer Infantry Regiment, a.k.a. the Quinn Regiment was mustered into federal service on March 15 1862 in Niles Michigan. The first regimental commander was Colonel Francis Quinn of Niles. Their first issued uniforms were provided by the federal government, to include the boots and hats. This was part of a shipment of equipment sent to Captain Lee the US Army Quartermaster in Detroit from New York and Philadelphia. Captain received at that time 200 boxes of clothing, 3,000 suits in total, which had arrived for the 12th, 13th and 14 Infantry Regiments . One former member of Company D indicated that army blue uniforms were arriving in January of 1862. A photograph of the 12th Regiment at Camp Barker (Niles Michigan) taken before the regiment left Michigan shows enlisted men in short dark blouses, most wear dark trousers but some wear light trousers. All wear dark hats. Only one enlisted man wears a frock coat. The green and gray blankets purchased for this regiment were worthless and quickly replaced.
  3. From the LOC-- unidentified member of the 12th Michigan, Co. A., with his Austrian musket... cal .54
  4. Stan I have started to write my book on Shiloh Arms. I see on this Site you have included a number of accounts of  letters of men who fought at Shiloh. I am looking or will look for any info on arms carried if the soldier has a negative or positive comment on what they carried. I have five or six mentioning firearms and how they reported their Regiment outgunned or better armed than the enemy at certain times during the Battle. I have also discovered with facts and evidence the CS Officers out here in the West and the East were aware of the quality of arms issued to the men and knew much of it was antique and of poor quality. They tried to convince the men otherwise by promoting the use of the bayonet in a Battle over Rifles... Some great propaganda came out on how Napoleon won the Battle with the Bayonet and with the crummy guns you were issued, the bayonet is your weapon of choice! Even Lee commented... and Johnston and Bragg-- anyway-- I will send you from time to time the manuscript for comment-- I am also doing a section on uniforms and Flags--  I know you are working on a Flag Book-- We will shake up the Shiloh World or at least contribute to the overall research of the Battle and that not everyone carried a smoothbore that day.... Tom

  5. I watched the Prentiss walk on You-Tube-- It was awesome, but there is an addition... At Fraley? Field and the first contact between the 3rd Miss Batt. and the 25th Missouri-- Professor Tim stated he believed the troops were armed with smoothbores... No they were not... Research shows the 25th MO. were issued Model 1842 rifles, .69 cal. firing big minies with long range rear sites and the Confederates some had rifles and even Sharps Rifles-- a very accurate and devastating weapon. The casualties were minimal-- not because of the use of smoothbores, but the darkness and distance between the contestants. At distances of 300 yards or more-- a soldier would have trouble sighting in and hitting a target-- especially when bullets are flying your way. The 16th Wisconsin were armed with the Class A Dresden Suhl Rifle, the 12th Michigan with .54 caliber Austrian rifles, and the 21st MO, Model 1842 rifled muskets, .69 caliber --all of them in Peabody's Brigade. The 23rd and 21st wore short jackets and bummers, the 18th Wisconsin in the State 5 button blouse and bummers some in black hats, and the 12th, I am still working on as to uniforms-- Tom
  6. Interesting that the arguing continued long after the War--- Lost Cause and such... will post more stuff from the newspapers-- interesting, Tom Arliskas
  7. ooops wrong post--- but a good read anyway!
  8. Found this in a series of old newspapers. That Beauregard was the one who drew up the plan of Battle for Shiloh-- and some say it was Johnston-- Even in 1885 they had their own discussion group on Shiloh! Shiloh 1885.pdf
  9. Of more importance to the Battle of Shiloh is the observation of General Bragg as to the condition of the Confederate Army concentrating in Corinth. Bragg was appalled at the supply situation and the discipline of the troops. He called them, "a mob" and not an Army. He was ordered to get them some training and to do his best to prepare them for Battle. Their weapons were inferior. They had plenty of cannons, but not enough trained crews to man them. A point to make for the Battle of Shiloh-- Johnston went in on a hope and a prayer that surprise and the bayonet would win the day. Braxton Bragg agreed with that after what he witnessed. Not saying the Southerners were not brave or worthy, just that they were thrown into Battle with little formal training and a lack of needed supplies-- Class A firearms one of them...
  10. Me neither--- Hard to find specific Regiments--
  11. I meant to say Beauregard not Johnston--- The 77th Ohio were armed with Prussian Smoothbore Muskets .70 Caliber? or bigger-- I would love to read that letter someday. I believe sincerely that the Battle of Shiloh can be given the same treatment as the Battle of Gettysburg. Gee Wiz--- They have their own Magazine-- and conferences every year!!! And a National Battlefield that attracts millions of visitors! I am not taking away from all that--- I love to visit Gettysburg. I am simply saying Shiloh has not been researched to the depth of Gettysburg.-- Thank You rwaller.
  12. Great find Ozzy! I am finding a lot of quotes from Federal Soldiers that state the high number of dead Confederates scattered in front on the Union Left under Sherman, Prentiss, and Wallace. It could be Johnston did not want the Confederate people to know the extent of the damage done to the Army.
  13. OK--- If we do it-- it will exciting-- I have a lot of work to do writing-- but, we can do a neat monograph on Shiloh--- for the masses. I am in an won't get involved until Winter this year... tom
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