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  1. New 16th Wisconsin Infantry album

    They were rifled .69 caliber. Awesome firearms-- I have here right next to me-- came out of Wisconsin-- I am sure it was used at Shiloh??$$%!!-- That is my story and I am sticking to it.--
  2. Confederate Firearms by Regiment for Shiloh

    Yeah well----- I have been working on my presentation for the Battle of Shiloh Seminar to be held this Fall at the Kenosha Civil War Museum September 15th. I will be sharing the stage with Professor Tim Smith-- Larry J. Daniel, Army of the Tennessee specialist and Bjorn Skaparsan of Ranger Shiloh fame! So I have to do a good job! It took me weeks to do the Confederates and that is not done. I will provide the list when I can after I get my talk on paper and a powerpoint-- You need a powerpoint for uniforms and flags. Here is a total for all, Grants Army of the Tennessee, 30, 759 Rifles and 11, 907 smoothbores. Buells Army 17, 921 and only 2,476 smoothbores. I am still working on this.--- These are close approximates.--- I have it all in my notes--- Maybe I will write a book about it???????????? Tom
  3. New 16th Wisconsin Infantry album

    I myself have trouble with the term BELGIAN-- when it comes to firearms... Many imports had the word Liege on the locks-- Tom
  4. New 16th Wisconsin Infantry album

    Another Wisconsin soldier with a Dresden-Suhl Rifle.--- They were refered to as Belgian Muskets by were rifled. Tom
  5. New 16th Wisconsin Infantry album

  6. New 16th Wisconsin Infantry album

  7. New 16th Wisconsin Infantry album

  8. Confederate Firearms by Regiment for Shiloh

    OK---- On making a determination about how a Confederate Regiment was armed using photographs as a back-up in the majority of the cases-- depends on how many photos you have.. If you have only one or two showing a particular arm, then all you can do is state, "two soldiers are carrying X"- BUT- When you have 10 or 12, like the 19th Alabama showing alternating Mississippi Rifles and Smoothbores-- Then you state, "19 members are carrying X"- and the photos were taken at Camp so and so-- when first mustered, they were issued these type of firearms. You can make that determination and state it until you have Ordnance records or diaries to show otherwise. So far, no one has come forward to disagree... Yes, Some firearms are props-- and you can prove it by looking up the Ordnance Records. What is happening is that the pictures are backing up the reports-- which is a good thing for research. I have been doing this for many many years-- and have looked at hundreds of CS photos.-- I would state that the Federal Army was more guilty in having its soldiers posed with props.-- especially in the big city's. Louisiana is one State where the Ordnance Records are buried somewhere. We know that in general the State issued a lot of cap and ball smoothbores. The photos show this... so we can make a statement that Regiment so and so was issued smoothbore muskets from the State, backed by Ammunition issues and records. Research continues.
  9. New 16th Wisconsin Infantry album

    These guns are very heavy--- 16 pounds-- but were considered Class A by the Ordnance Bureau. I have a great quote from a Wisconsin soldier at Shiloh-- although sad and unfortunate-- He stated his Dresden Suhl would pass through 3 files of CS soldiers every time he shot-- He was amazed!!! Tom
  10. New 16th Wisconsin Infantry album

  11. New 16th Wisconsin Infantry album

    All of them are wearing the State issued 5 button blouse. A distinctive piece of clothing. They also had a State issued haversack and canteen that was different from the rest. They were issued Dresden Suhl Rifled muskets. A very good Class A firearm which they used with devastating effect at Shiloh. Awesome. Tom
  12. Whose Flag?

    It is the Missouri State Flag--- Flags like this carried by members of the Missouri State Guard-- pro-slave, pro-secession, and pro-Missouri. Tom
  13. Confederate Firearms by Regiment for Shiloh

    Yes, My notes say Co. G, had 4 Maynard Rifles and the balance Mississippi Rifles, so the 2,000 Mississippi cartridges for Shiloh. The rest of the Companies carried flintlock .69 calibre muskets. I have the Will McDonald notes that says they carried Enfields! Maybe? So you post both-- and hope someone who has the correct factual info offers to share his or her findings. I also use photos. I try to locate photos of soldiers carrying firearms and go from there. All of it has to be included. You are correct in that a lot of this information has disappeared or the Veterans never wrote it down for us. I have discovered a lot of information from CS Regiments who were never at Shiloh-- with massive requisitions, ordnance reports, and letters, diaries and memoirs!! But not at Shiloh!!!! I will stand behind my research until someone proves me wrong. And so far, not a lot of folks have come forward to contest it, which is good. I stated I want folks to challenge it or change it with factual research. I just finished the Federal Army at Shiloh!!!! Their arms!!! A lot of Rifles especially in Buell's Army!!! Tom Arliskas
  14. Tom Arliskas

    A member of the Orlean's Guard-- possibly wearing the uniform worn at Shiloh. These men mistaken for Federal soldiers many times on April 6th, 1862.
  15. Confederate Firearms by Regiment for Shiloh

    OZZY-- Thank You for your input. You are correct that entire Regiments fell out of line for lack of ammunition. Federal and Confederate! The Confederates were each given 40 rounds of ammunition for their particular firearm and another 100? per man were carried in the ordnance trains that followed the Army as they advanced. These wagons, many were lost or abandoned by their teamsters throughout the day. There are some accounts of the Confederates finding ammunition stacks in the abandoned Federal Camps too! Ammunition was a problem-- even Grant and Sherman acknowledged the difficulty of supplying ammunition to the Army of different calibres. Tom