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Captain Patrick Gregg, M.D. in Shiloh Context

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I am working on a biography of Dr. Patrick Gregg of Rock Island, Illinois. He was Captain of K Company of the 58th Illinois and was captured with Prentiss. His post  POW career was with the 23rd Illinois as its Surgeon.  The attached file is an attempt to give context to Gregg's Shiloh's personal experience there. Critique and corrections are welcome.

 

Biography of Patrick Gregg p1-9 Context.pdf

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Any time I learn something new and significant, I am impressed. I was caught up in the narrative from the first page, and enjoyed the comparison of Shiloh to the 1781 Battle of Cowpens (and found the transition smooth from discussion of the Civil War Battle to explanation of the Revolutionary War engagement. And there are benefits to this connection, with the 250th Anniversary of American Revolution happening now.) The style of footnotes used is not distracting; and the extent of research is evident.

The misfortune experienced by Colonel Lynch (probably the last chance for Federal defenders to avoid capture after fighting all day) is well explained. And the introduction of Oscar Malmborg -- with his archaic tactics and tenuous grasp of the English language -- highlights yet another Shiloh character deserving of recognition. And as for Patrick Gregg: I have long believed Dr. Gregg's performance after Shiloh to be deserving of the highest recognition... even to late-award of the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Can't wait to see the rest of the story...

All the best

Ozzy

 

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Ozzy, " with the 250th Anniversary of American Revolution happening now"  American Revolution 1775-1783. Won't be on a 250th anniversary till 2025.

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The Townshend Acts were passed in 1767 - that was the start of the whole thing. Unless you count the Stamp Act. On the other hand I prefer starting with the Treaty of Paris  of 1763 since that was when the English started piling on Colonial taxes to pay their 7 Years War debt. 

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Returning to Patrick Gregg...

Having grown up in a community with no "Gregg Primary School," or "Gregg Park" or "Gregg Street," ...it was refreshing for me to see that Patrick Gregg finally achieved a bit of recognition in his adopted hometown:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Do65Ohw9Rcg/UODwGRgmj8I/AAAAAAAAAOE/t8vNQ7GBkWg/s1600/goodyear.jpg 

[Shaw-Hellige Mural in Rock Island, posted on Google Images by goodyear.jpg with an elderly Patrick Gregg third from left in back row.]

Ozzy

 

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Hope the Patrick Gregg Project is progressing IAW your expectations. I have run across few sources over recent weeks, but after placing "rock island arsenal patrick gregg" in Search Box on Google, encountered information about Dr. Gregg not widely known. The sources:

http://archive.org/stream/historicalencyclill02bate#page/n5/mode/2up  Historical Encyclopedia of Illinois (1914) -- Rock Island.  This reference looked promising, but holds scant reference to Patrick Gregg (pages 841, 875 and 976). Most disappointing: the exhaustive Biography Section, beginning page 991, contains no entry. [However, mention is made of Pierce Barber on page 979... more on him, later.]

 http://www.rigov.org/DocumentCenter/View/1118  Walking tour of Rock Island neighborhoods: Chicago Addition. Stop Number 1 is the former home of Dr. Patrick Gregg (house still standing in 1992.) Brief, slightly inaccurate biography included.

Belvidere Standard newspaper (of Belvidere, Illinois) edition of August 11th 1886. Reports retirement of Dr. Gregg as Post Surgeon at Rock Island Arsenal after more than twenty years of continuous service.

http://www.qconline.com/editorials/couple-traces-history-of-a-port-byron-founder/article_c8c0aac0-155c-5a14-8820-89b9ff675b19.html  2013 article reporting the connection of Dr. Patrick Gregg to Port Byron, Illinois. Although Gregg's connection to Rock Island County is known, this 1830s residence in Port Byron offers opportunity to find significant resources IRT the doctor. [Port Byron was a "boom town" upriver from Rock Island that was seen as potential shipyard for building paddle steamers. Pierce Barber built the first steamer there in 1844; and many Port Byron-built passenger steamers saw service during the Civil War.]

http://portbyronil.com/history/   Port Byron Historical Society.

http://www.rivervalleylibrary.org/historicalsociety.asp  Port Byron Library contact details. [As a former Library worker, recommend asking about "vertical file" records on Patrick Gregg. Most Illinois libraries created/maintained vertical files (collections of local history) that cannot be found anywhere else.]

Vertical files. Because Patrick Gregg had connections with City of Rock Island and Davenport, Iowa, it would be worthwhile to contact the main city library of those two places and enquire about Patrick Gregg. In addition, Rock Island Arsenal maintains a Post Library (of unclassified information) which most likely contains information on Post Surgeon Patrick Gregg.

Finally, here is Patrick Gregg at find-a-grave:  http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi/http%22//fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=168446947 

All the best

Ozzy

 

 

 

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Thanks for all the good stuff! Did you notice that the Prof of Surgery at Jefferson was the Little Mac's father? Gregg wisely decided to spiff up his resume by attending two lecture courses at Jefferson, a controversial proprietary institution that was fought tooth and nail by U Penn. It was actually chartered as a division of the old Washington and Jefferson College located in western Penn  near Pittsburgh. Gregg must have done the required apprenticeship (usually 3 years) in Ireland and probably attended one of the small proprietary schools in Dublin where he did his "anatomy". There, as here, grave robbers were major, if unofficial, members of the faculty.  Somewhat curiously, there briefly was a medical school in Rock Island about 1850 chartered by the University of Wisconsin! It moved to Rock Island from St. Charles, Illinois, where the anatomy prof had been shot by an mob angry over a grave robbery.  The school moved to Davenport after its year in Rock Island and then subsequently to Keokuk, where it ultimately morphed into the University of Iowa School of Medicine.

Gregg's father, John, was the victim of an assassination attempt in Ireland, probably because he had been a member of the Protestant yeomanry militia loyal to England during the rising of 1798.* John and the family fled to western New York just over the border from Penn. Patrick Gregg, John Emerson, and Henry Crawford (surgeon of the 58th Illinois) were all Irish Protestant physicians who never joined a church in America. All three of their families had experienced the effects of civil war in Ireland.

*see: http://www.historyireland.com/18th-19th-century-history/a-forgotten-army-the-irish-yeomanry/

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this is very interesting article...i tried to like it but a message popped up saying i can only "like" 10 posts per 4 hr hour period...i had not liked 10 yet..has anybody ever come upon that?

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Every once in a while, I must hit a "forbidden key" and lose some ability or other on SDG site. (Have experienced two brief periods where adding "Like" was not permitted; one fourteen day period last year I could not post anything at all.) But it seems to self-correct after a few days.

Cheers

Ozzy

 

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Found another newspaper article (Rock Island Argus of Tuesday, July 27th 1886, page 4) that reveals interesting detail about termination of Dr. Gregg's service at Rock Island Arsenal as Post Surgeon. Titled, "Why so much Nonsense?" the brief contribution seems to indicate political reasons for ending Patrick Gregg's tenure. A shame, because more sensitivity should have been exercised in the retirement of this loyal, untiring servant of the community.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn92053944/1886-07-27/ed-1/seq-4/#date1=1886&index=0&rows=20&words=Gregg&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=Illinois&date2=1886&proxtext=Gregg&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1

Ozzy

N.B.  In case the link is broken, the article is at Chronicling America (the Library of Congress site.)

 

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I have searched through on-line archives of the Quad City papers and saw the pieces about Gregg's retirement. He also had a spat with the Davenport medical community and most of his Rock Island colleagues about a decade prior over an outbreak of water borne dysentery in Rock Island. Gregg got a bit carried away in the defense of his home town when it seemed quite apparent that the Rock Island municipal water supply was the culprit. The Arsenal position was a nice plum but Gregg did not complain about his retirement at least in print that I have seen. He also had helped out at the POW prison on Rock Island during his time between his own return to Rock Island in 1862 and when he joined the 23rd Illinois as its surgeon.

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Wonder if the "Irish temper" is what kept him out of the "Historical Encyclopedia of Illinois?"

Ozzy

 

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He was a man of many facets. He collected the $200 bounty for going to Wisconsin to apprehend and bring back one of Col. Davenport's killers. He then received his body for "science" after the murderer was convicted and then hanged in the Rock Island square. Attached is his last recruiting ad in the Argus.

Recruiting notice Argus Jan 1862.JPG

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Thanks for posting the above article of January 1862. The more one researches the life of Patrick Gregg, the more one appreciates the boundless energy and drive and determination of the man... who seems to have accomplished more in his 82 years than most men could achieve in four lifetimes. While investigating Rock Island connections to Dr. Gregg, I am struck by "artificial divides" that seem to have been constructed, separating "Old settlers," Civil War participants, and "Golden Age movers and shakers" into distinct categories. Over time, the only Old settlers to enjoy community recognition were George Davenport, Antoine LeClaire, John Deere and Chief Blackhawk. Local Civil War participants were rarely discussed (with focus on far-flung battles in the East substituting for local involvement. Example: I never heard of Battles of Wilson's Creek or Pea Ridge until long after my school days; and then by accident. Yet those engagements, as well as Shiloh, involved local soldiers.)

Perhaps Patrick Gregg became cantankerous in old age; fell out of favor. Whatever the cause, it was the community's loss.

Just a ramble...

Ozzy

 

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I hope to soon post a piece I am working on about Dr. Gregg and Dr. John Emerson, owner of Dred Scott. Gregg was summoned by Emerson when the latter was dying in 1843 in Davenport. Gregg witnessed Emerson's will at the LeClaire Hotel, where Emerson and his wife and child were living while they built a brick house close by. The Irish background of the two doctors was remarkably similar. They also crossed paths as Emerson was leaving the rotting Fort Armstrong for Fort Snelling and Gregg was arriving in Rock Island in the spring of 1836.

In 1951 the Rock Island Medical Society published a 50 year history. It was dedicated to Dr. Patrick Gregg, though it does not contain much info about him.

In 1879 John Gregg, the drill master and Patrick's son, was indicted and convicted of embezzling money from the U S Post Office in Chicago. I will post the details when I organize them. John was pardoned by Rutherford B Hays and went on to live a successful life. He may have taken a hit for his brother in law General John McArthur, the post master, who was also indicted, convicted and pardoned. John transferred from the 12th Illinois that had been formed by McArthur in the summer of 1861 to Patrick Gregg's company of the 58th in December of 1861 by order of General Halleck. After being a POW John became McArthur's aide-de-camp. Some of John's old 12th comrades were also captured at Shiloh.

McArthur was a competent Brigade commander who was stellar at Nashville. 


 

 

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Was looking for information IRT Governor Isham Harris (who returned to Memphis after Battle of Shiloh) and while scanning the April 9th edition of Memphis Daily Appeal, ran across an almost complete list of Federal Officers captured at Pittsburg Landing [page 2, Column 3: "Federal Officers in the City."] Captain P. Gregg, 58th Illinois is recorded, about halfway down. Lieutenant J.W. Gregg, 58th Illinois is recorded a bit further down.

Cheers

Ozzy

Reference:  http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045160/1862-04-09/ed-1/seq-2/  Memphis Daily Appeal for April 9th 1862

 

 

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Jim

Thanks for having a look at the April 9th Memphis Daily Appeal "List of Federal Officers in the City."  I was heartened by the fact the article listed all of the 12th Iowa and 58th Illinois officers taken prisoner (and is one of the few places where Patrick Gregg and J.W. Gregg are recorded as prisoners together). But on closer examination, your observations are confirmed: not mentioned are any officers of the 16th Wisconsin (or 14th Iowa, or 25th Missouri, or any of the artillery units.) And those men erroneously credited to the "19th Wisconsin" are correctly recorded elsewhere as belonging, as follows:

  • Lieutenant T.A. Jackson               18th Wisconsin, Co.B
  • Chaplain George Stokes              18th Wisconsin, Co.F
  • Lieutenant S.D. Woodworth          18th Wisconsin, Co.H
  • Lieutenant DWC Wilson                18th Wisconsin, Co.D
  • Lieutenant Ira H. Ford                   18th Wisconsin, Co.I
  • Lieutenant O.A. Southmayd          18th Wisconsin, Co.I
  • Orderly SGT L.H. Farr                   18th Wisconsin, Co.D

The above names (except O/Sgt Farr) are recorded at Madison Prison in Georgia, from July 10th 1862. Sergeant Farr is found in the Roster of Wisconsin Volunteers, Volume 2. The Madison Prison Records also record officers of the 14th Iowa and Ross's Michigan Battery (but no officers from 16th Wisconsin or 25th Missouri.)

Regards

Ozzy

 

References:  http://archive.org/stream/rosterofwisconsi02wisc#page/84/mode/2up  Roster of Wisconsin Volunteers

http://dlg.galileo.usg.edu/cgi/turningpoint?repo=harg;item=harg0455-001-001;format=pdf   Madison [Georgia] Prison Record

 

N.B.  Another interesting aspect IRT the Memphis Daily Appeal: even after the occupation of Memphis on June 6th 1862, the newspaper continued to be published as a "Confederate advocating paper" ...but it was no longer published in Memphis. Moved down the road to Grenada, Mississippi.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045160/1862-06-10/ed-1/seq-2/  Memphis Daily Appeal published at Grenada

 

 

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While trying to track down a record of Captain Patrick Gregg's May/June 1862 meeting with President Lincoln, somehow ended up on the archive.org resource, Historic Rock Island County: a history of the Settlement of Rock Island (1908). Entries for Patrick Gregg on page 96 (in connection with founding of Port Byron); page 115 (Medical practice); page 124 (Business directory); and page 227 (Charter Member of Rock Island Assn. of Old Settlers (1865). Upon scrolling to bottom of "Back to Details Page" ran across the following resources: History of Scott County, Iowa (1882) and History of Davenport and Scott County, Iowa (1910). This last has a single entry, page 501, recording Dr. Gregg's affiliation with the Scott County Medical Society. The History of Scott County has records of Dr. Gregg (page 520-1) in attendance at Picnic of Pioneer Settlers Assn. of Scott County in 1869; pages 515-7 as special guest of the Pioneer Settlers; an 1878 meeting attended (page 536-7); and admission as Honorary Member of Scott County Medical Society on January 27th 1857 (pages 659-660.)

Having Meetings and their dates allows searching newspapers for more information (apparently Patrick Gregg was a popular speaker.) Also at least four societies and associations included Patrick Gregg as a member (with possible Meeting Minutes and Booklets detailing proceedings.)

Still would like to find a record of Gregg's meeting(s) with Lincoln...

Ozzy

 

References:  http://archive.org/details/historicrockisla00kram  Historic Rock Island County (1908)

http://archive.org/details/cu31924028872757   History of Scott County (1882)

http://archive.org/details/cu31924028914384  History of Davenport and Scott County (1910)

 

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Just a heads-up... Davenport Public Library has indicated interest in "The Life of Patrick Gregg."  If any more information comes to hand, will pass it along.

Ozzy

Reference:  http://blogs.davenportlibrary.com  Davenport Iowa Public Library

 

 

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I was in RI last week to visit the RI Pub Lib and Rock Island County Historical Soc. Research Library. RIPL has a microfilm of the Stephenson Banner and the Upper Mississippian from 1839 on (though not complete). The Daily Argus from about 26 June 1862 may have a more detailed account of Gregg's 3 hour speech to 8000 people at the RI court house, but I have not found a copy. I have found quoted reference to Gregg's letter to the  Argus.

Thanks for your continuing help!

Rbn3

The Morning Democrat 
(Davenport, Iowa)

26 Jun 1862, Thu  • Page 2

 

Exchange of Prisoners.JPG

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WOW...  Talk about something being hidden in plain sight. I've been attempting to track a transcript of Patrick Gregg's meeting(s) with President Lincoln through Nicolay or Hay, and had not yet considered that "someone" might have contacted the Rock Island Argus with details. Shrewd, but necessary (as it put pressure on Federal leaders to follow through with the promised exchange arrangement, or suffer public embarrassment.) But this article -- with details of Gregg's discussion and decision -- also confirms my belief in Patrick Gregg: a man to be trusted to do the right thing, simply because it was the right thing to do. To imagine: someone willingly returning to a Prisoner of War camp -- when one Shiloh prisoner was dying every day from malnutrition and neglect-based diseases -- because he believed it important to personally deliver President Lincoln's message. Magnificent. 

Rbn3... Well Done on retrieving this inspiring bit of information

Ozzy

 

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In the 11 June 1862 Chicago Tribune (via the New York Tribune) some details are described about Gregg and the other Shiloh Prisoners. I wonder what Gregg thought about travelling on the Monitor, which certainly did not look ("cheese box on a raft") particularly sea-worthy. And it wasn't, as it took part of its crew to a watery grave when it sank in a storm in December 1862. However, Monitor's battle with CSS Virginia (USS Merrimack) occurred in early March (8-9), so Gregg knew its storied history.

Gregg in Washington Prisoner Exchange Tribune 11 June 1862 Monitor.JPG

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