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Some of us Stalwarts were talking among ourselves during the recent 2018 Anniversary hikes, trying to figure out suggestions for topics for Dr Smith's 2018 Epic Hike.  One suggestion was to follow the route of Trabue's (mostly) Kentucky Brigade (a suggestion not put forth by your Faithful Correspondent), which could be lengthy, if one starts at the initial position on the Bark Road and follows it to its position in Crescent Field, then bushwhacking across Tilghlman Branch, and closing the encirclement of Prentiss et al.  Then to the Indian Mounds, which ended its service on April 6.  It spent the night in the camps of the 6th Iowa and 46th Ohio (McDowell's Brigade of the Fifth Division), clear across the Battlefield.

Your Faithful Correspondent suggested some sort of an excursion in which the hike would follow the course of the Federal brigades into the fighting on April 6.  The basis of this suggestion is that your Faithful Correspondent does not have a grasp of the location of the Federal camps, with the exception of the Fifth and Sixth Division brigade camps.

One of the aspects of his recent book which he touts is its treatment of the April 7 actions which is deeper than that of other accounts, so perhaps Dr Smith could put together a hike dealing with the Second Day.  He did discuss Lew Wallace's actions on April 7 in the afternoon installment of last year's Epic Hike. but there's a lot more to cover.

Does anyone else have any suggestions?

 

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I would be all for the Trabue Hike.  I think it would be interesting to follow Lauman's Brigade on the 6th and 7th (The 17th Kentucky was from my town...so that's why I would love that!) from their camps at Cloud Field, to the Peach Orchard, then across the road form Wicker Field, back to the last line, then over to Jones Field and beyond.  These always take place in November, correct?  My wife and I are expecting in November, so I might have to miss this anyway.  I would love to go on one of Dr. Smith's hikes after watching all the videos and reading his book.

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A couple of thoughts, neither of which may be applicable for 2018:

1. Something Vicksburg-related, since Dr. Tim is working on Vicksburg-related books.  

2.  A "(fill in state name) at Shiloh" series, visiting some of the more notable actions of regiments from several of the states represented at Shiloh.  My thought that this could be an ongoing series, with each year's hike covering regiments from a particular state.

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On 4/16/2018 at 7:32 PM, Transylvania said:

Some of us Stalwarts were talking among ourselves during the recent 2018 Anniversary hikes, trying to figure out suggestions for topics for Dr Smith's 2018 Epic Hike.  One suggestion was to follow the route of Trabue's (mostly) Kentucky Brigade (a suggestion not put forth by your Faithful Correspondent), which could be lengthy, if one starts at the initial position on the Bark Road and follows it to its position in Crescent Field, then bushwhacking across Tilghlman Branch, and closing the encirclement of Prentiss et al.  Then to the Indian Mounds, which ended its service on April 6.  It spent the night in the camps of the 6th Iowa and 46th Ohio (McDowell's Brigade of the Fifth Division), clear across the Battlefield.

Your Faithful Correspondent suggested some sort of an excursion in which the hike would follow the course of the Federal brigades into the fighting on April 6.  The basis of this suggestion is that your Faithful Correspondent does not have a grasp of the location of the Federal camps, with the exception of the Fifth and Sixth Division brigade camps.

One of the aspects of his recent book which he touts is its treatment of the April 7 actions which is deeper than that of other accounts, so perhaps Dr Smith could put together a hike dealing with the Second Day.  He did discuss Lew Wallace's actions on April 7 in the afternoon installment of last year's Epic Hike. but there's a lot more to cover.

Does anyone else have any suggestions?

 

I have never been on any of the "epic hikes", but your 2nd suggestion sounds interesting, that of following some of the other Federal units in to battle aside from those in the front line camps.  There were many units, mainly on the Federal side, that simply didn't march clear across creation in their action at Shiloh.  The only drawback is that if you are retracing the steps of a unit that did not travel far it would make for a short hike and leave everyone with a, well, "now what do we do" scenario when the hike is over.  Good ideas though.  

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16 hours ago, Stan Hutson said:

I have never been on any of the "epic hikes", but your 2nd suggestion sounds interesting, that of following some of the other Federal units in to battle aside from those in the front line camps.  There were many units, mainly on the Federal side, that simply didn't march clear across creation in their action at Shiloh.  The only drawback is that if you are retracing the steps of a unit that did not travel far it would make for a short hike and leave everyone with a, well, "now what do we do" scenario when the hike is over.  Good ideas though.  

That is indeed the problem.  The Epic Hike is an all-day affair, so a hike following the Federal units to the front line would actually be a matter  of following one brigade and then backtracking to a different brigade camp, following it into battle, &c, &c, &c - perhaps not the most exciting hike.  And the big drawback - there would be no reason to traverse Dill Branch.

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if those that wish to traverse Dill Creek ravine...it can be made available to those that havent done it yet...i do beleive the most of us have more than several times...but folloeing a unit would be good...kind of like how we retraced the steps of Prentiss" men in April..with Bjorn.That was a good hike.

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I think we should try to lower a cannon down to the bottom of the ravine from Gage's position marker to appreciate what that battery did to keep up.

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4 hours ago, Russell Martin said:

Will the battlefield loan us a canon for that? Or do we need to "borrow" one from another?

You are joking...we would all be forever banned

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" You are joking...we would all be forever banned " Actually, Doc, all Y'all would most likely be in jail! I believe there are Federal laws about the theft of property.

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1 hour ago, WI16thJim said:

" You are joking...we would all be forever banned " Actually, Doc, all Y'all would most likely be in jail! I believe there are Federal laws about the theft of property.

We'd bring it back........ come on man!

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3 hours ago, WI16thJim said:

" You are joking...we would all be forever banned " Actually, Doc, all Y'all would most likely be in jail! I believe there are Federal laws about the theft of property.

I know...

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On 4/24/2018 at 4:01 PM, mona said:

if those that wish to traverse Dill Creek ravine...it can be made available to those that havent done it yet...i do beleive the most of us have more than several times...but folloeing a unit would be good...kind of like how we retraced the steps of Prentiss" men in April..with Bjorn.That was a good hike.

It  is not a true visit to the Shiloh National Military Park unless one traverses the Dill Branch Ravine.

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You are absolutely right...one has NOT hike Shiloh unless they have crossed Dill Branch..if there is some water..brownie points!!because until you've done this one can not really ascertain what the soldiers had to traverse through in the battle action.the tour road gives the visitor the total different idea of the ground that was involved throughout both days of fighting..

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On 4/18/2018 at 3:32 AM, YEKCIM said:

A couple of thoughts, neither of which may be applicable for 2018:

1. Something Vicksburg-related, since Dr. Tim is working on Vicksburg-related books.  

2.  A "(fill in state name) at Shiloh" series, visiting some of the more notable actions of regiments from several of the states represented at Shiloh.  My thought that this could be an ongoing series, with each year's hike covering regiments from a particular state.

In response to #1, how about following Samuel Lockett? Is there enough documentation about his reconnaissance and later actions to constitute an Epic Hike?

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Over on the Shiloh Discussion Facebook page, we had a recent announcement - I am not sure why it wasn't shared here.

https://www.facebook.com/events/271131020312173/

Our annual Shiloh adventure with historian, author, and former Shiloh park ranger, Tim Smith. This year's hike will focus on the Confederate army's Alabama troops.

Price: $30 per person. Pay on the day of the hike, prior to starting. (Failure to pay could possibly result in a situation known as "lost in an unknown ravine.")

Probable starting/ending point: Ed Shaw's, just south of the park at the intersection of state highways 22 & 142. (We'll firm this up well before the hike.) 

Lunch (included): Sandwiches, drinks, and snacks, courtesy of long-time SDG member Mona Henson. (Be sure to thank her. She always more than earns it.) 

Bonus treats: Cookies and snickerdoodles! Courtesy of SDG member Jeani Cantrell. (Ditto on the earned thank-yous.) 

Lunch location: Visitor's Center area. Usually lasts around an hour. 

(Side-note: Please do not get between the SDG admin and the snickerdoodles. He's reportedly a little weird about this.) 

Hike Summary: We'll be following in the footsteps of Alabama's soldiers, and learn about their various experiences in this turning-point battle that would define the rest of the Civil War.

We'll start at the south end of the park and work our way east and north, before crossing Dill Branch and heading toward the snickerdoodles....or rather, toward lunch. Then off across Tilghman Branch and the west side of the battlefield, before turning back to the south and our starting point.

(Note - See the Discussion tab above for a map and written outline of our route through the park.)

We'll be covering the better part of the park, and will be off the paved roads most of the time. If the idea of seeing and experiencing areas of the park most people will never see appeals to you, this is an excellent way to do so with some like-minded folks. 

Terrain will range from easy to "You can't be serious!" Sturdy footwear is strongly recommend. We'll be crossing over some very uneven ground, through the woods, across creeks and ravines, including Tilghman Branch, as well as the terrifying legend itself, Dill Branch Ravine. (Exaggerating for effect. Mostly. :) ) 

Going on past hikes, we should likely finish up somewhere between 4 p.m. & 6 p.m. We've had one hike end about 4:00, and two that finished with flashlights. But they were fun. :) 

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone in November, and I hope you decide to join us. We always have a good time, learn something new that heightens our understanding, and Tim never fails to do an excellent job. This year will certainly be no different. Hope to see you there.
 

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