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The schedule should be out within the next 3-5 days I was told yesterday-with figures crossed-So be on the look out--So make your plans for April 6-7-8 .Yall I have begged for them to not overlap the hikes this year.

Mona

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Well Guys I dont know what to say--I have a copy of the Hike schedule and "assumed"they'd be posted but not.So her's a brief summry as best as I can type:Tuesday 4-6-10 5:15 Fraley field 7-9:am Bloody Sunday :the battle of Shiloh Church 9:30-11:30 Desparate Morning fight:Sherman defends union right(15 min Prior__discussion on Interpreting what the battlefield is not telling you.)Noon -2:oopm Making a stubborn Stand--Johnson at the peach orchard 2:30-4:30 From Hell's Hollow to dill Branch  4:30-6:30 grants Last Line of defense--geography,gunboats, psychology

wednesday April 7th 8-9:30 AM Rebel Calvary:) and union sharpshooters:deadly skirmishing on the western ravines(probably will be my favorite)Priorto this will be a short discussion on the Shiloh Picnic area and not so well known stories of this area and Hardin countians) 11am-1pm Clash of the Blue and Gray:union advance and Confederate defense on the 2nd day. 1:30-3:30 a new addition to our schedule--impaired mobility tour-Thunder in the Thicket Prentiss and Hornets nest action.  2pm-4pm Stuggle for the crossroads

thursday April 8th  9-11 am Fallen Timbers NBF The devil and union pursuit 12:30-3:30 iowa remembers Shiloh:A different kind of reinactment--Bjorn is schedukled to tour Iowa's dedications of their monuments  Well there it is in a nut shell i do hope the get the whole thing up soon.I'll check.'Mona

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Mona, thanks!

Looks like the schedule still isn't posted on the NPS site, so maybe there's a few computer gremlins causing some trouble.

The hike topics look very good, as usual, but I see they have gone back to having only 30 minutes between most of the hikes again. I liked it better with an hour between hikes. At thirty minutes, you've got time, but you also feel a little rushed, and I think it's less likely for folks to take part in all of the hikes on Tuesday. Especially with no break for lunch this time. Overall that's probably a minor complaint though.

I like the extras they've included. Bjorn's tour of the Iowa monuments will probably touch on some of the early-day history of the park, which is something I hope they do more of in future years.

We're getting closer - Fort Henry and Fort Donelson are now in Union hands, and the Confederates are evacuating Nashville...

Perry

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the situation with posting the schedule is that it has ben handed to the individual who issuposed to load it onto the website but they havent as of yet --hopefully soon.

Mona

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Just found out last evening the indiviual that supposed to post is now out of the office for as few days--You may try to call them and see if they would e-mail the schedule to you.

Mona

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The hike information has been posted at the NPS site. Thanks again to Mona for keeping us up to date.

Below is a copy of the information you will find at the Shiloh NPS site. You can read the original by clicking this link below, scrolling your mouse over April 6th, 7th, or 8th in the calender, and clicking on the word "More"...

April Event Calender

As it states in the announcement, they ask that you call and make reservations if you plan on attending the hikes. Here's a copy of the complete announcement...

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April Anniversary Battlefield Hikes and Talks Date:  4/6/2010, 4/7/2010, 4/8/2010

Time:  5:00 AM to 5:00 PM

Location:  Shiloh Battlefield

Details:

SHILOH NATIONAL MILITARY PARK

APRIL ANNIVERSARY BATTLEFIELD HIKES

APRIL 6TH, APRIL 7TH, APRIL 8TH, 2010

Shiloh National Military Park Superintendent Woody Harrell is pleased to announce the park will offer in-depth hikes on Shiloh battlefield on the actual dates of the historic battle, April 6th, 7th, 8th, 2010. 

"We are excited to be able to offer visitors to the park the opportunity to participate in detailed battlefield hikes on the actual ground where the events occurred at the actual times of day they occurred, 148 years after the fact," Harrell stated.  Park Rangers and experienced historical guides will lead six hikes on Tuesday, April 6th, four hikes on Wednesday, April 7th, and two hikes on Thursday, April 8th. 

"These hikes will provide visitors with a deeper understanding of what occurred during the fierce fighting, describe the real war experiences of the Northern and Southern soldiers, and provide rare opportunities for visitors to access park personnel for extended periods of time on the battlefield," commented Harrell. 

"These hikes will allow visitors to experience portions of the battlefield not routinely visited by the public, and allow the hikers a chance to interact with battlefield guides who will present in-depth analysis of the strategic and tactical movements of the troops," added Chief of Interpretation Stacy Allen. 

For the visitors who participate in the anniversary hikes, the park entrance fee of $3.00 per person, and $5.00 per family will be charged. The entrance fee is valid for seven days.

The participation in the battlefield hikes is by reservation only. To participate in one or more of the battlefield hikes, please contact Park Rangers Joe Davis, Charlie Spearman, or Chris Mekow at the Shiloh Battlefield Visitor Center at 731-689-5696. 

Registered participants should meet the guides at the appointed sites, and are encouraged to wear appropriate clothing and footwear as some terrain will be difficult. Visitors attending more than one hike are encouraged to have food and water available.

The following are the anniversary hikes which are being offered, with starting times and distances of each program. 

TUESDAY, APRIL 6TH, 2010

5:15 a.m. FRALEY FIELD:  THE BATTLE BEGINS

Meet at Shiloh National Military Park Visitor Center at 5:00 a.m.

Hiking Distance: Union Hike-2 Miles Roundtrip, Southern Hike-1 Mile Roundtrip

Type of Terrain:  Moderate

Join Park Volunteers Bjorn Skaptason, and Jeff Gentsch on a two hour battlefield hike which will introduce visitors to the events surrounding the opening shots of the battle.

These hikes will follow the approach of the Northern and Southern soldiers and will arrive in Fraley Field at sunrise.  After arriving at the Visitor Center, hikers will divide into two groups.  Visitors participating in the Northern advance will drive to Tour Stop # (to be announced later), where their hike will begin.  This group will retrace the route of the Federal reconnoitering party ordered out by Colonel Everett Peabody. 

The second group will drive to the edge of Fraley Field, where their approach will begin.  This group will retrace the Confederate skirmishers trek and take their position in Fraley Field.  The two groups will encounter each other at daylight in Fraley Field, just as the Union and Confederate soldiers met on that historic morning of April 6th, 1862. 

The Northern advance will require a two mile roundtrip hike, while the Southern approach will require a one mile roundtrip hike.  Each of the hikes will cover moderate terrain. 

7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m.

BLOODY SUNDAY: THE BATTLE FOR SHILOH CHURCH

Meet at Shiloh Church

Hiking Distance:  2.5 Miles

Type of Terrain:  Moderate to Difficult

Join Dr. Jeff Gentsch to examine the fighting which changed a peaceful Sunday morning into one of the greatest battles of the American Civil War.  Tactics, which is the attempted marriage of mobility and firepower, is greatly influenced by the landscape, and nowhere is this any more evident than during the Battle of Shiloh. 

From the beginning, Confederate units lost unit cohesion attempting to cross flooded areas, significant elevation changes, and pass through dense vegetation.  By the time, General S.A.M. Wood`s Confederate Brigade and the 4th Tennessee Regiment of General Alexander Stewart`s Brigade began their assaults along the Hamburg-Purdy Road, at approximately 11:00 a.m., Confederate units were all ready trying to take advantage of geographic factors. The Southern army was attempting to make use of the geographic factors in order to overcome the Northern armies’ geographic advantages that would allow the Union army to fight from strong defensive positions.

This program will discuss the Union elevation and enfilade advantages over the surrounding landscape, especially Rea Field, and provide explanations of tactics used in this part of the battlefield.  Since artillery was active in this part of the battlefield, the differences between smoothbore and rifled cannon will be explored.  The program will also discuss the attempted cooperation between Confederate infantry and artillery in close quarters with the enemy.  As the fighting is detailed, the presentation will discuss how the 13th Tennessee Infantry uses a stream as cover, and how the attempted envelopment between the 13th Tennessee Infantry and the 154th Tennessee Infantry forced the withdrawal of Captain Allen Waterhouse`s Illinois Artillery Battery.

9:30 a.m. to 11:30 p.m.

DESPERATE MORNING FIGHT: GENERAL SHERMAN DEFENDS THE UNION RIGHT

Meet at Tour Stop (To be announced)

Hiking Distance:  3 Miles

Type of Terrain:  Moderately difficult, while traversing deep ravines, creeks, and hiking overland through woods and fields.

Join Bjorn Skaptason to explore the fierce fighting on the Union right, and how General William Sherman attempts to hold this position.  During the long morning of April 6th, Colonel John McDowell`s Brigade of General William T. Sherman`s Division was largely defending against the Confederates by themselves. Sherman supervised the most severe action taking place along the ridge of Shiloh Church. As General Sherman`s division retreated back, Colonel McDowell`s men became separated from their division and seemed to wander aimlessly for more than an hour. 

After rejoining their commander in Jones Field, these soldiers from Iowa, Ohio, and Illinois, were thrown into the savage, two division counterattack that changed the momentum of the battle on the western flank for more than two hours. Their defense of the western shoulder of the counterattack cost them very heavy casualties, and earned them lasting honor.

This program introduces visitors to these Union men from southern Illinois` Egypt region, central Ohio, and the plains of Iowa.  It will also chronicle their magnificent and costly struggle on the parade grounds of General John McClernand`s Northern Division. This discussion will also expose the shortcomings in leadership which compromised these soldiers` effectiveness early in the battle. The program will also provide insight into the collapse of the Union line at the "Crossroads", such as how the gridlock of Colonel McDowell`s trains contributes to the collapse. 

*Understanding the Negative:  Interpreting What the Battlefield is not Telling You, begins 15 minutes before the 9:30 a.m. tour. Meet at the same location at 9:15 a.m. to participate in this short program.

12:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m.

MAKING A STUBBORN STAND: GENERAL JOHNSTON AT THE PEACH ORCHARD

Meet at the Peach Orchard

Hiking Distance:  Approximately 2 Miles

Type of Terrain:  Moderately Difficult

General Albert Sidney Johnston`s plan of battle called for the Confederate Army of the Mississippi to drive back General Ulysses S. Grant`s Army of the Tennessee by turning the left flank and capturing the Federal supply line at Pittsburg Landing.  Although initially successful the Confederate attack was stalled by afternoon near the Peach Orchard where they met a stubborn stand by General Stephen Hurlbut`s Division.

Join Park Ranger Charlie Spearman on a two hour walking tour starting at the Peach Orchard, and follow the action as General Hurlbut forms a line of battle and the Confederates make an attack led by General Johnston himself, to drive the Northerners back toward Pittsburg Landing. 

This hike will cover moderate terrain and will explore the series of stands made by the Union left which slowed down the Confederate advance for most of the afternoon. This walk will include visits to the ravine where the 9th Illinois Volunteer Infantry suffered the highest casualty rate of any Union unit in the Battle of Shiloh. This hike will also visit the site of General Albert Sidney Johnston`s death, which occurred on the afternoon of April 6th, 1862.

2:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m.

FROM HELL`S HOLLOW TO DILL BRANCH: HOW TO CONTEND WITH VICTORY AND DEFEAT

Meet at (To be announced)

Hiking Distance: 3 Miles

Type of Terrain:  Moderate to Difficult

After the fall of General Benjamin Prentiss` divisional camps around 9:00 a.m. on April 6th, the Union center became an important factor in why the Confederates were unable to prosecute a rapid advance. What started as a make-shift defensive position along a shallow wagon track, Federal infantry and artillery reinforcements made this the nucleus of battle, drawing Confederate units into a sector where geographic advantages and dogged resistance allowed Federal forces to prevent all Southern attempts to capture this position until early evening of the 6th of April. The result bought precious time for Union forces to create a defensive line west of Pittsburg Landing, and to allow General Don Carlos Buell`s Army of the Ohio to reinforce General Grant`s beleaguered Army of the Tennessee. 

Join Dr. Jeff Gentsch as he discusses the collapse of the Union right and left flank which under relentless Confederate pressure left the Federal center in an untenable position late in the afternoon of April 6th, 1862. With their flanks folding around them, Union units attempted to extricate themselves from the encirclement with varying degrees of success.  The congestion and chaos of battle, the geography of the withdrawal corridor, and an enemy that was constantly finding a better line of fire with which to slow, and then stop the retreat of the Northerners were central factors in the Union surrender. These elements were central reasons in why over 2,000 Federal troops were forced to capitulate in the area between the Corinth and Hamburg-Savannah Roads in west Cloud Field around 5:30 p.m. on the first day of battle.

This hike will cover the retreat of the Northern forces through Hell`s Hollow to the lip of Dill Creek Ravine. As visitors view Dill Creek Ravine, the discussion will include the Confederate problem with artillery mobility on the eastern sector of the battlefield, and the physical condition of the troops at this stage of the battle.

4:30 p.m. to 6:30 p.m.

GENERAL GRANT’S LAST LINE OF DEFENSE: GEOGRAPHY, PSYCHOLOGY, AND GUNBOATS

Meet at the Indian Mounds Kiosk

Hiking Distance:  2.5 miles

Type of Terrain:  Difficult, traveling up and down steep ravines, over streams, and through woods.

At 2:00 p.m., on the afternoon of April 6th, General U. S. Grant began preparing his last line of defense in the event the Confederates overcame resistance on the Peach Orchard-Hornet`s Nest-Jones Field line. Colonel Joseph Webster assembled about 25 guns along a line about 800 yards north of Dill Branch, supported by disorganized detachments of infantry, and guarded on the east flank by the gunboats, Tyler and Lexington. When the Confederates moved against this position at approximately 6:00 p.m., their uncoordinated attack dissolved without making any impression on Webster`s position. 

Join Bjorn Skaptason as he discusses the position and operation of the gunboats, Confederate General John Jackson`s dilemma of no ammunition for his troops, miscommunications among Confederate commanders, the famous siege gun battery, General Don Carlos Buell`s arrival, the "horror" of the gunboats, the riddle built into General Johnston`s plan of battle, and visit the high water mark of the Confederate advance during the battle.

Bjorn will address such questions as: What prevented the Confederates from succeeding in this last attack on the first day of battle? What role did the Navy play in deterring a final Confederate effort? Was the Rebel "horror" of the gunboats merited? What was the importance of psychological factors in the outcome of the battle?

 

President Abraham Lincoln and the Mississippi River Squadron begins 15 minutes before the 4:30 p.m. tour.  This short program examines the importance of the gunboats of the Mississippi River Squadron at Shiloh, and President Lincoln’s role in creating that novel and revolutionary combined operations unit.

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 7TH, 2010

8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m.

REBEL CAVALRY AND UNION SHARPSHOOTERS: DEADLY SKIRMISHING IN THE WESTERN RAVINES

Meet at the Picnic Area

Hiking Distance:  2.5 Miles

Type of Terrain: Difficult, moving through deep ravines and streams.

In pursuance of General Albert Sidney Johnston’s plan of battle, the Confederate Army tried to turn the left flank of the Union Army at Pittsburg Landing, and drive them into the swamps of Owl Creek and Snake Creek. As a result, much of the heaviest action at Shiloh occurred away from those swamps as the Confederates tried to drive their enemies into that trap. But there was much low-level action on the west side of the battlefield as small units on both sides sparred over the most advantageous positions. The better part of the cavalry action that occurred at Shiloh occurred in this backwater of the battlefield. 

Join Bjorn Skaptason as he leads visitors through some of the roughest terrain at Shiloh National Military Park. Bjorn will discuss General Albert Sidney Johnston’s battle plan, the difficulty of cavalry on the battlefield, the wait for Union General Lew Wallace’s reinforcements, Birge`s Sharpshooters, and General Wallace’s shifting advance over troubling terrain.

The hike will address questions such as: What happened in the dangerous low-intensity combats on the Union left flank? What were these troops trying to accomplish as they struggled through forbidding and flooded ravines? Who were the cavalrymen and the sharpshooters who fought, bled, and died in the swamps and ravines that were supposed to be the coffin for General Grant`s army?

 

Shiloh`s Picnic Area, begins 15 minutes before the 8:00 a.m. tour. Even though its primary mission is interpreting the Battle of Shiloh on April 6-7, 1862, Shiloh National Military Park has always provided Hardin, County, Tennessee with beautiful places for rest, recreation, and reflection. Many great historical stories are told through the history of the park, (since 1894), the people who built it, and the generations who have enjoyed it. This short program will take a deeper look at the Shiloh picnic area, and some of the little known stories of the park.

11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.

THE CLASH OF THE BLUE AND THE GRAY:THE UNION ADVANCE AND CONFEDERATE DEFENSE OF THE 2ND DAY

Meet at (To be announced)

Hiking Distance: 3 Miles

Type of Terrain: Moderate to Difficult

The initial contact between the armies on the morning of April 7th, 1862, was a confused and hotly contested affair. Both the Northern and Southern soldiers were shook up, and feeling the effects of the previous day’s battle. The Union, having been reinforced by General Don Carlos Buell’s Army of the Ohio, held the advantage of fresh troops, but had to contend with many of the same offensive problems that the Confederates had to overcome the day before.  It is on this last day of battle that is witnessed some of the fiercest fighting, not only on the battlefield, but in the history books after the battle had closed.  The historiography of Shiloh for April 7th suffers from a lack of primary information, which hampers historians in understanding the particulars of how the Battle of Shiloh ended.

Join Dr. Jeff Gentsch as he discusses the weather during the night of April 6th, and the scene of the countryside on the morning of April 7th, 1862. The program will describe the Confederate defense of the road just south of the Hornet’s Nest thicket, and the southern edge of Davis Wheatfield. The tour will explain the nature of the Confederate defenses along the road which often operated from concealed positions. The hike will explore the advance of the combined mixture of General Grant’s and General Buell’s Union armies. 

1:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m.

MOBILITY IMPAIRED TOUR THUNDER IN THE THICKET: THE UNION CENTER AND ASSOCIATED ACTIONS APRIL 6TH, 7TH, 1862

Meet at (To be announced)

Hiking Distance: Between one-quarter and one-half Mile

Type of Terrain: Easy

Join Bjorn Skaptason and Dr. Jeff Gentsch on this tour for mobility impaired individuals.  This program will allow individuals with mobility issues to tour the battlefield, and hear more in-depth analysis of the two day battle.

This program will describe the fall of and the retreat of General Benjamin Prentiss and the Union soldiers in the Hornet’s Nest. The physical and cultural geography of the Sunken Road will be explored, as well as the importance of the Eastern Corinth Road. A geographic description of the Confederate approach through the Hornet’s Nest will be provided, as well as an explanation of Civil War infantry. A discussion of the Confederate artillery problems, and of the desperate retreat through Hell’s Hollow will be given, as well as providing visitors with a look into the infamous "Hell’s Hollow".

A description of the conditions and the weather on the night of April 6th will be provided to the visitors. An explanation of the second day of fighting will be examined, and discussion will be given for the fighting on the second day of battle. One of the features of the program will be the Confederate retreat toward Corinth, Mississippi, and the action at Fallen Timbers.

2:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.

STRUGGLE FOR THE CROSSROADS:THE CONFEDERATES FIGHT TO SAVE A VICTORY

Meet at (To be announced)

Hiking Distance: 1 Mile

Type of Terrain: Easy

The area near the crossroads of the Hamburg-Purdy Road and the Corinth Road was one of the most fought over portions of the Shiloh Battlefield on both days of the battle. By noon on April 7th, the Confederates had been pushed back to the vicinity of the Crossroads and Woolf Field. A desperate and bloody struggle was being waged as both sides attempted to gain control of the field of combat. The battle action was also beginning to be influenced by the physical conditions of the tired soldiers of both North and South. 

Join Park Ranger Charles Spearman as he describes the fighting near Water Oaks Pond.  The program will discuss the fierce Confederate counter attacks, some of which were led by General P. G. T. Beauregard personally. These assaults were an attempt to regain the initiative and to attempt to preserve what had appeared to be a Southern victory on the evening of April 6th, 1862. The presentation will also provide a description of the last Confederate stand near Shiloh Church, before the withdrawal order was given by General Beauregard. 

THURSDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2010

9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m.

"THAT DEVIL FORREST": UNION PURSUIT AND THE BATTLE OF FALLEN TIMBERS

 

Meet at Visitor Center

Car Caravan Distance: Approximately 8 Miles

Type of Terrain: Tour by Vehicle

Join Bjorn Skaptason on a Fallen Timbers car caravan to discuss the Confederate retreat to Corinth, Mississippi. 

The Battle of Shiloh ended when the Confederates withdrew from the Union camps on the evening of April 7th, 1862. Yet there was still some fighting, and much more suffering to take place. On April 8th, Confederate General John C. Breckenridge led the only viable Confederate force that could offer strong resistance in the event of serious Union pursuit. At Fallen Timbers, General Breckenridge’s cavalry screen, under the aggressive Colonel Nathan Bedford Forrest, attacked a Union reconnaissance force, and bloodied the Northern force. Breckinridge kept up an aggressive posture while the Confederate survivors continued a slow, painful retreat to Corinth, Mississippi. 

This car caravan will lead visitors to several locations outside the Shiloh National Military Park that are important to the story of the battle. Participants will have the opportunity to visit the campsite area for General Albert Sidney Johnston, where he spent the last night of his life, on the night before the Battle of Shiloh; the important fork in the road that delayed the Confederate advance on April 5th; visit the location of the engagement at Fallen Timbers; they will visit the location of Mickey`s Farm, where thousands of Confederate wounded received treatment, and where many are buried. Visitors will drive the existing roads upon which the Confederates traveled back and forth on their journey to Shiloh. This program will address important questions regarding the outcome of the Battle of Shiloh. 

12:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m.

IOWA REMEMERS SHILOH: A DIFFERENT KIND OF REENACTMENT

 

Meet at the Iowa State Monument

Hiking Distance: 2 Miles Driving, with 3 Miles Walking

Type of Terrain: Moderate, with driving or walking along open ground and trails

Join Bjorn Skaptason for a tour of selected Iowa monuments utilizing dedicatory speeches made on the day of their presentation to the government. The report of the Iowa Commission for Shiloh National Military Park gives a detailed and unique account of the dedication ceremonies for the Iowa monuments at Shiloh. Those ceremonies occurred on one day in 1906, and included a battlefield hike much like the ones presented on this anniversary weekend. 

This program will partially reenact that hike from 103 years ago. This program interprets how the memory of Shiloh was framed by the point of view of Iowans and Iowa units, sometimes leading to contemporary controversies, as well as modern controversies. The program will also introduce visitors to David Henderson and David Reed, and explore their importance to Shiloh historiography.  

Fees:$3 Per Individual or $5 Per Family (Park Entrance Fee)

Contact: Shiloh Visitor Center

731-689-5696

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I have read the schedule of hikes with great interest as this schedule appears to be very comprehensive and will add to the understanding of the battle.  I'm glad that they will go into the areas of the battlefield seldom visited by the general public.  The best trip to Shiloh I had (no guided tour) was when I went into these areas and it was a pleasure to walk in the back areas, the beautiful nature and the thrill of visiting a position plaque in these back areas.  I'm pleased so much with the schedule of tours that I'm tempted to go awol and join all of you on these hikes.  Since I'm no longer in the army, I can't go awol as my wife won't like it. 

So, everybody go to Shiloh and enjoy the Hikes.  Kindly remember me as one who is eating his heart out because he cannot go with you.  I would really enjoy meeting all of you but, not to be.  To ease the pain, you might consider bringing me a souvenir.  Let me suggest a M1841 field gun, one of the ladies could put in her purse, the park will never miss it.

Being the nit picker I am, let me point out a error in the Shiloh Park's Schedule of Trips.  In the section descriping "Grant's Last Line of Defense", first paragraph, it is mentioned that "Colonel Joseph Wheeler assembled about 25 guns along a line about 800 yards north of Dill Creek".  Unless Colonel Wheeler was a quick change artist, this would be impossible as Col Wheeler was a confederate regiment commander and not in the union army.  The line of guns in Grant's Last line of Defense was assembled by orders of General Grant issued to Colonel Joseph D. Webster who assembled the "about 25 guns along a line about 800 yards north of the Dill Creek".  The larger number of guns cited by many sources represent the field guns that retreated off the battlefield and joined the line. 

Also in the same section of Hikes, in paragraph 2, in which it is stated that Jackson's brigade had no ammunition, Colonel Joseph Wheeler makes claims that he commanded the brigade, not General Jackson, and that he lead the brigade into the Dill Creek Ravine after he arranged for the brigade to replenish their ammunition.  This is is a very interesting claim, one that too date, no other source verifies and was written by Colonel (later General) Wheeler 34 years after the battle.  As we know, the memories of veterans written or stated many years after the events, can be accepted only with caution and supporting sources.  His statements appear in the Southern Historical Society Papers, volume 24, page 119.  PLEASE CAN ANYBODY FIND ANOTHER SOURCE FOR COLONEL WHEELER'S CLAIM HE COMMANDED THE BRIGADE, LET ME KNOW.

Go ahead, be a devil and tease your tour guide with this info. 

Have fun and I'm jealous of all of you. 

A Very Sad Ron

 

 

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"Have fun and I'm jealous of all of you. 

A Very Sad Ron"

Unfortunately, Ron, I'm with you.  If I could sing, I'd be doing the Blues right now.

Jim

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Ron,

Indeed, you are correct about the errors in the program description.  I shall respond in the great tradition of historical debate by first,

denying the obvious mistake:  I totally wrote Webster, not Walker!  I just checked my draft and it says Webster.  It's not my fault!;)

and second, defecting criticism on to the mistakes of more capable and more famous scholars:  Did anybody notice that Mark Grimsley and Steve Woodworth identified William T. Sherman as "Brigadier-General, C.S.A." on page 73 of their otherwise excellent 2006 publication Shiloh: A Battlefield Tour Guide?:)

Seriously, though, thanks for the catch.  I shall contact the park and have the error corrected.

As to Wheeler, I have checked two standard biographies, Edward Longacre's A Soldier to the Last (2007), and John P. Dyer's From Shiloh to San Juan (1961 revised edition) for discussion of Wheeler's claim of command of Jackson's Brigade on the afternoon of April 6.  Neither one is much help.  Longacre accepts Wheeler's claim without any challenge, citing the SHSP essay you referenced along with his report.  Dyer concludes the narration of April 6 with the surrender of Prentiss.  Dyer does not use citations, although he does include a helpful critical essay on his sources.

I wish you could be there, Ron, but I expect your flock of Raging Bulls to be well-prepared with tough questions.

Best,

Bjorn

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Well guys, chances are that I won't be making it over for the hikes this year myself. It's a shame, as Bjorn, Jeff, Charles, and the folks at the park have obviously put together another exceptional program. I might still make it, either for the hikes or for Park Day, but if so it will probably be a last-minute situation.

If anyone is border line about going though, let me nudge you toward the "definitely go if you can" side of that border. It's worth it. Just be aware that when Bjorn or Jeff joke around about plunging full speed into the woods, they aren't actually joking. :)

Ron mentioned walking around the park on his own. That's also the way I usually do it, is to visit the battlefield parks by myself, and have my own itinerary. There are benefits to that, and there are also benefits to touring the park in a more structured group setting instead of by yourself. There are trade-offs each way, but each way is worthwhile in its own right.

If you're used to going on your own and aren't sure if taking part in a group like this would be a good idea, all I can tell you is that so far I've done the anniversary hikes twice now, and as a confirmed individualist when it comes to battlefield visits, I highly recommend them.

Chances are very good that however much you already know about Shiloh, you will still gain new insights and be exposed to new perspectives. You might also come away seeing the park, and the battle, in ways that you hadn't considered before. That was my experience both times I attended. And you also get to meet other folks, including members of this board, whom you already know share your interest in this battle and park.

Okay, I'm starting to depress myself because I probably can't make it this year, so I think I'm gonna stop now. ;) But if you can make it, and you're still deciding, I'd very much recommend going.

Perry

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Perry: I am bummed:( Thought you might be going & bringing back pictures of some of the obscure cannons. Oh well, how come life gets in the way of fun stuff???

I am not attending either, am trying to sell the house so I can move east so am tied up with that. I would love to be on Bjorn's hike about the Iowa Monuments. Bet that would be interesting.:)

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Hi Guys--It was requested by the park rangers yesterday for youall that are planning to attend the hikes to please sign up.If you dont want to call or cant do so when they are there you can send me a PM here and let me know which ones you =want to attensd and I'll be glad to put you on the list.

Mona

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Wanted to remind everyone again, if you plan to attend either the anniversary hikes or Park Day, please be sure to call the park and register ahead of time, as Mona suggested. It helps them in planning the events, and I know they would appreciate it very much. You can contact the park at 731-689-5696.

And as RoboCop would say, thank you for your cooperation. :)

Perry

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I'd wish everyone a great time on the hikes, but I suppose everyone who's going is already there, and won't be reading this.

Oh, who cares - have a great time on the hikes. And let us know how it all went. :)

Perry

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