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  1. Sometimes from the depths of anguish and despair emerges something beautiful and inspiring. Such is the case with a Christmas song that started out as a poem, written in the middle of a seemingly endless war by a man who was no stranger to either anguish or despair. I'll let the video below tell the rest of the story. It's very much worth a listen. However life may find you as we near the end of 2017, I wish you better days ahead, and a truly wonderful 2018. Merry Christmas, folks. Perry
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  2. Thanks for the links Tim. I believe I've found my favorite way to take in these hikes. Google maps, a Trailhead map and Tony's excellent videos. Life is good!
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  3. Not long ago, a friend of mine saw on Craiglists that a Battlefield Position Marker from Shiloh was up for sale. This struck him as odd, and sent me the listing over Facebook to see for myself. The marker itself is #402, Day 2 action, Jones Withers' Division, Chalmer's 2nd Brigade that states: C. S. ARMY OF THE MISSISSIPPI. Chalmers' (2d) Brigade, 9th MISS., 7th MISS., 5th MISS., 10th MISS., Withers' (2d) Division, Bragg's Corps.
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  4. For your viewing pleasure... If you see a typo or other mistake just put the problem here and I'll fix it! Bruce 155th Battle Anniversary Hikes and Tours.pdf
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  5. I recall 10 years ago this April you gave some cards out and a local friend of mine came over to my truck one afternoon and handed me one of the SDG cards..I looked at it and he said "I told him you didnt have a computer" and you said to him..".maybe this will get her to get a computer." well I had to go to the library for several years. and am pleased to say that through this group I have learned so much,been able to "travel" with those who post pictures of other battlefields and meet some dear friends through this group.May we always stick together in our battlefield tromps.I also believe th
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  6. Perry, I forget to mention in the above post that "THE WEST IS THE BEST" in reference to the better area of the civil war. Ron
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  7. Perry, Congratulation's and a job well done to you. The discussion group went along through 10 years with your good leadership. I read your message about the origin of the group and was surprised because I thought it was started earlier then 2007. My big enjoyment has been reading all of the fine articles (posts) by the many knowledge members. I still regret the passing of Art Bergeron. My biggest regret is not getting to any anniversary trip to Shiloh and meeting the other members. My wife and I made two trips, (2000, 2005) just before the group started up. Too soon. I enjoyed bo
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  8. I am the new Archivist at Upper Iowa University, and if there is anything that I can help with regarding any of the University Recruits or Dr. Parker - please let me know. I am fairly new to this position and am fascinated by the history of the University and the involvement with the Civil War. I will also see about fixing the sign quoting the Collegian, which was the student newspaper. Below is some information about the flag. Upper Iowa University Civil War Flag In 1861, 19 young recruits from Upper Iowa University were among the men mustered into Company C of the 12th Iowa Regime
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  9. Greetings, In anticipation of the upcoming battleground day at Fort Donelson on November 5th I thought I would post some photographs I have accumulated over the years with the intention that they might assist those who have not been to Fort Donelson and Fort Henry and Fort Heiman before. There are two threads moving forward on the Fort Donelson hike. This one referred to a Fort Henry hike so I decided to post information on Fort Henry and other locations here. At Fort Henry earthworks remain for both the inner works and the outer works. In the last ten years information si
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  10. Hello everyone. This is to let you know that we're ready to go with our next Epic Trek, with historian Tim Smith. This will be our seventh consecutive year with Tim, and it promises to be another great experience. Here are the details: Price: $30 per person. Payable on the morning of the hike. Date: November 3rd, 2018. Location: Shiloh National Military Park Start Time/Place: 8:00 a.m. at Ed Shaw's, just south of the park. (Not completely set in stone just yet on Shaw's, but Mona or I will keep you posted.) If you're not sure how to get there, don't worry, we've got you c
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  11. The day after the Fort Donelson hike with historian Tim Smith, a few of us ventured out to the site of Fort Henry along the Tennessee River (now Kentucky Lake). This was my first time visiting the area, and I certainly hope it won't be my last. If you've heard folks talk about how beautiful is the Land Between the Lakes, there's a very good reason. And the history speaks for itself. Part of that history is the incredibly unfortunate location of Fort Henry. There are reasons that explain why the fort was situated where it was, but none of them change the fact that it was a lousy spot for
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  12. Captain Henry Binmore It is said that a good leader surrounds himself with good people. And, as has been discussed, Benjamin Prentiss had a number of good people in his employ, following on his election as Brigadier General (by the troops he was to command), on May 8th 1861, in charge of the Illinois Brigade, with HQ at Cairo. And those individuals selected by Prentiss contributed to the success of their General; and in return saw their own careers go from strength to strength. One such individual, not yet discussed, is Henry Binmore. A native of London born in 1833, Henry migra
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  13. All, Well, as many of you know, I have worked a long time to develop the best image collection related to the Battle of Shiloh, and also, Corinth, Fort Donelson, and Iuka. Never have thought to ask before, but if anyone has any images, or knows of any images, related to these battles, especially Shiloh. Let me know, I would love to add them to the appropriate album. I would speculate that the Shiloh Confederate and Federal albums is the largest online collection of images related to the Battle of Shiloh available, well, anywhere. Hope everyone enjoys them! Stan
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  14. Jim - here are a few screenshots from my gps app showing where we hiked, with some added tags (I hope I got them right - if not someone will let us know). I included the elevations around Tilghman Branch since Tim asked about it.
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  15. I have my reservation in Savannah and plan to be there as scheduled. Since the research I have done over the years involves Prentiss, Peabody, Powell, the opening of the fight and the Sunken Road and Hornets’ Nest I invite anybody from this group and any others who have an interest to meet me at 9 AM on Sunday, Nov. 12, at the Prentiss headquarters monument where I will share information on Prentiss. Then I plan to visit Peabody’s monument to have a discussion of what happened in the opening of the fight. After that we will make a trip to the
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  16. A little fun from some of our Epic Treks.... (Photo credit: Michele) (Photo credit: Ed Wertz) (Photo credit: Mike Talplacido) (Photo credit: Michele) (Photo credit: Michele) (Photo credit: No one claims this one) (Photo credit: Mike Talplacido) (Photo credit: Michele) We'll be doing another Epic Trek this November. Why not join us? You'll have a great time, and who knows, you might wind up as a caption. Perry
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  17. Hi Folks, After heading up to Fort Donelson this past fall, we're returning to Shiloh for our next Epic Trek adventure with historian Tim Smith. This time we're going to focus on Lew Wallace and his controversial role in the battle. Tim is going to lead us on a combined driving/walking tour of Wallace's infamous march from Crump's Landing to the battlefield on April 6th, and explore the controversies surrounding this march. After lunch, we'll then re-trace Wallace's fighting advance on April 7th as part of the Union counter-attack. In 2005, Tim led a small group of rangers and histo
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  18. A few more. Pictures courtesy of Ed Wertz, and used with his permission. He also gets caption credit for the first one.
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  19. Hi there guys. I received an email from the great-granddaughter of Augustus Hervey Mecklin after she came across this discussion and saw the question about her ancestor's diary. According to what she told me the diary is in the Mississippi Department of Archives & History. Here's their main website: http://www.mdah.ms.gov/new/ She added that you can't handle the original anymore (she was able to do so at one point), but you can order copies of the original diary, as well as a copy of a typed transcription made by one of his granddaughters. She did say that the transcription conta
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  20. Here's my own little Then & Now submission. The one on the left was taken in 2014, the one on the right in 2017. Note the angle of the sun, the position of the sunglasses, and the placement of the arms.
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  21. Welcome to the board, Jonny. Concerning your ancestor's unit, that would probably have to be the 4th Alabama Infantry Battalion, if he was at Shiloh. They were part of Trabue's brigade in Breckinridge's Reserve Corps and fought mostly on the western part of the battlefield. The battalion was detached from the rest of the brigade early on the 6th, according to Trabue's report. (Apparently there was also a report from the battalion commander, but it was unfortunately lost at some point.) The brigade helped to stop a strong Union counter-attack around mid-day on April 6th, and later helped surrou
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  22. Hooray! The Park has the coat due to donations and grants from The State of Tennessee, But don't stop now as we still need to get the coat conserved at a cost of $20,000.00. We have it and it will be at Shiloh forever, way to go Friends of Shiloh.
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  23. Sometime on February 28th, 2007, I clicked whatever button it was that I was supposed to click, and the Shiloh Discussion Group was live and in color for the first time. Two years earlier I was (unknowingly) coming to the end of my time as the editor of the Civil War topic on the now-defunct Suite101.com, and kicking around the idea of starting up a site centered around a single battle. Maybe the timing was good, as I was about ready to move on as it was. I quickly narrowed the choices down to a couple of personal favorites, Vicksburg and Shiloh. Obviously I went with Shiloh, but th
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  24. Historian Tim Smith will be interviewed online this Saturday by none other than our very own Bjorn Skaptason, about Tim's new book on forts Henry & Donelson. Bjorn will also be interviewing David Powell about his new book on Chickamauga. You can find out about the broadcast, as well as watch it live, at the link below. If you can't make the live broadcast, I'll post a link to the replay on Youtube as soon as it's up... http://authorsvoice.net/
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  25. Free food on Bruce! Also, concerning the Ed Bearss maps that Hank mentioned, they're available as downloadable pdf files on the Fort Donelson NPS site - https://www.nps.gov/fodo/planyourvisit/thebattleforfortdonelson.htm Scroll about halfway down the page and you'll see the links. Perry
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  26. Greetings, Recently I visited a grade school and high school buddy (Dave) who lives in Fort Atkinson, Iowa. Nearby is Waukon, Iowa, the home and burial place of David Wilson Reed. Also of interest was Clermont, Iowa where a sculpture of David Bremer Henderson, the first Speaker of the House from west of the Mississippi, and who drafted the legislation for the formation of Shiloh National Military Park, was dedicated in front of the Episcopal Church. Reed and Henderson were of the group known as the “University Recruits” from Upper Iowa University (UIU) who joined Company C of the 12th
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  27. I anted to let yall know how it went last evening.The rain held off and it was warm but we had about 750 attending the show.We had birthday cakes to cut so about only 175-200 gt a sliver.The music was excelent. But the main reason im posting this i for yall to listen to a song Daryl Worley did.( i dont have any of his records so this song wont be heard on the radio.you have to remember he grew up really accross the river from the battlefield.Before he did this song he told of growing up and hearing family stories of his ancestors hearing the battle.Few years ago a couple of his song writing bu
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  28. Hi Russell and welcome to the group, You said you read voraciously so I went through my researched materials and came up with a few suggestions, which, I believe, will result in giving you a fair opportunity to understand this Shiloh battle. I was not going to post anything here since there was no request made for recommendations. But since members have now suggested certain books and opined that the selection of either Wiley Sword’s book or Tim Smith’s book is a good place to start I take this opportunity to voice my disagreement. Both Sword’s and Smith’s books are revisionist
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  29. Thank you, Tony, for sharing these wonderful videos of Bjorn's recent tour of Colonel Worthington and the 46th Ohio's positions at Shiloh. It means a great deal to those of us who were not able to see the tours in person.
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  30. Shiloh's other Particpants.pdf Jim
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  31. Laura...... I am certainly enjoying your meaningful, insightful Shiloh posts. As a photographer, genealogist and student of civil war, I can appreciate the research you've put into your family member search! Ozzy is a good source of information. I've learned a few things from him, as well. Keep up the good work! You, too, Ozzy!!! THE MANASSAS BELLE
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  32. Perry....... First, I'd like you to give your talk on Peabody. Who knows him better than you?!!! Second, I'd like a tour of the history of the major monuments, their symbolisms, significance and dedications. Third, a tour on the evolution of the park during the various periods after the battle (including the proposed electric trolley line!) THE MANASSAS BELLE
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  33. Hi. I live in Tempe, Arizona I have been a student of the CW for 30 years. I have eight ancestors who fought for the Federals and a whole lot more for the Confederacy. Shiloh is one of many battles in which I have an interest. I am a member of the Scottsdale, Arizona CWRT, Battlefield Trust, Civil War Talk. I look forward to learning more about Shiloh
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  34. The Confederate dead numbered 1728, if I am to believe my Battlefield America map [and is the number given by David W Reed (pbuhn)]. Do we really think that 700 of them fell in the assault upon the Sixth Division? (OK, I know that someone will claim that the 16th Wisconsin killed them all.)
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  35. Thanks Tom. Yes, I have worked hard on the images for the Shiloh Discussion Group page, hoping this place can be a kind of repository for them. I am sure I have amassed the largest online collection of Federal and Confederate soldiers killed, wounded, missing, POW, etc., at the Battle of Shiloh. It seems like for some regiments both North and South at Shiloh we can paint a thorough picture of what they looked like and what they were wearing, but with other units, not so much. I will help out where I can, and good luck in your endeavors. Find attached an article describing, literally
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  36. Major Joseph Kirkland wrote a Civil War novel published in 1891 in Chicago: The Captain of Company K. The first link below gives the background of the author and of the novel. The second link is to a copy of the book. Kirkwood actually served with the 12th Illinois with McClellen and left the service when McClellen was relieved. The 12th ended up in Tennesee at Shiloh and then with Sherman. Kirkwood's description of Shiloh is decent historical fiction as he remained a friend of many participants. The book is worth a glance just for Hugh Capper's pen and ink drawings. Kirkwood writes in the voi
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  37. Laura Just a few bits uncovered while researching Samuel William Everett (1820 - 1862)... he joined the 10th Illinois Infantry (under command of Colonel Benjamin Prentiss) in April 1861. Upon expiration of 3-month term of service, Surgeon Everett appears to have joined the Staff of Brigadier General Prentiss (along with Daniel Stahl) and served with Prentiss in Missouri. The 3-year 10th Illinois went on to serve at Island No.10 while Stahl and Dr. Everett accompanied General Prentiss to Pittsburg Landing, arriving there end of March or April 1st. As Commander of Sixth Division, Benjamin P
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  38. We have a winner! Hamburg-Savannah Road it is. The 'catch' about the picture is that, as Mona guessed, it's from the section of the road north of Highway 22, between there and Snake Creek. It's technically inside the park, but since it's across the highway from the rest of the park, and blocked by a gate to keep vehicles out, I doubt it gets many visitors. In fact, this was the first time I had ever been over there myself. Michele and I walked along it maybe half-a-mile or so before turning around near that downed tree across the road. And like I told Jim, I probably would have guessed it
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  39. Tony's camera was cutting off on him from time to time during the Fort Donelson hike, but he was able to apply some of his editing skills to go along with his video skills, and put together a good video for us. So here you go, and big-time thanks again to Tony for doing this for us, and to Tim for putting together another outstanding hike.
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  40. In the “Charles C. Cloutman Papers, Special Collections, State Historical Society of Iowa, Des Moines” there is a memorial book dedicated to Captain Charles Cloutman of Company K of the 2nd Iowa. Captain Cloutman led his company up the slopes of Fort Donelson on February 15, 1862 and was shot dead through the heart during the advance on the fort. He was 37 years old and had a wife and three children plus Charles Cloutman Jr. was born the day after his father’s funeral on February 25, 1862. His wife was a cousin of General Winfield Scott. The Iowa State Archivist gave approval to this
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  41. For any interested, I printed a number of packets of the Bearss maps (series 1, since series 2 focuses more on Fort Henry and the Union march to Fort Donelson) as well as the Civil War Trust map, which is pretty good and provides some topographical information. I'll bring them to the hike on Saturday. Looking forward to it!
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  42. In 1959 Ed Bearss produced a set of maps for FortDonelson that are Troop Movement Maps covering the positions of the troops from February 12, 1862 through 5:00 P.M. on February 15, 1862. There are ten maps in the set covering the positions of the regiments at various times over the four days. Hopefully they will have some of these sets available in the temporary visitor’s center for those interested. The FortHenry and FortDonelson campaign was chosen in 1912 to be a campaign worthy of study at the GeneralServiceSchool at FortLeavenworth. The school compiled so
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  43. It has been a few years since I've done the driving tour, so I figured It was time. First stop, of course, is the Visitor Center to pick up a tour map Tour Stop #1 Grant's Last Line Tour Stop #2 Confederate Monument Tour Stop #3 Duncan Field Tour stop #4 Ruggles' Battery Tour Stop #5 Shiloh Church Tour Stop #6 Rhea Field Tour Stop #7 Fraley Field Tour Stop #8 Co
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  44. If you'd like to go straight to the payment link for this year's hike. you can find it here - http://shilohdiscussiongroup.com/index.php?/store/ Epic is Back! The new phone book is here, the new phone book is here! Whoops, wait a moment.....sorry for going all Steve Martin on you, but I guess I'm kind of excited to announce our 2015 Epic Trek with Tim Weekend! This year's gathering is on November 6th, 7th, and 8th, with Tim's hike taking place on the 7th. We're returning for our fourth consecutive year with Tim, so we've just about become a thing! But hey, we can't help it if Tim's h
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  45. also,on sat/sun..there will be a Living History (sponsored by the Shiloh Battlefield Museum 1115 Hwy 22 s Shiloh--accross 22 from Shaw's)The weather is to be nice so we should have a good number of reinactors for programs>
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  46. Below is an outline of some of the events leading up to the battle of Shiloh. Each event is color-coded. Events relating to the Confederates are listed in Red. Those relating to the Union are in Blue. Some events may pertain to both sides but are shown in either red or blue. This will usually signify a victory by that side - the Union capture of Fort Henry is described in blue, for example - or to indicate that the event is more closely associated with one side than the other. The main sources for this timeline are Wiley Sword's Shiloh: Bloody April, Larry J. Daniel's Shiloh: The Battle That
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